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USA320Pilot said:
USA320Pilot comments: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,This union is a democracy and just like with an election, everybody deserves a vote just not four dictators.

Respectfully,

USA320Pilot
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Mr USA320Pilot,
Your wrong, wrong, and wrong. I ask you respectfully look at the parlimentary substructures of the US House of Representitives or the US Senate. How many bills never even make it out of committee to the floor for debate and consideration? People elect representitives. Should they then not act in the people's interest, they can be replaced. (Just like pension legislation was blocked by one man, Sen Fitzgerald by parlimentary procedure, legislation that ALPA fought very hard for to reinstate your pension) So in reality, is ALPA a democracy (NO) or more like a republic (YES). When would now be (borrowing your phrase) a good time for all to understand that?

DENVER, CO

DENVER, CO
 
AAviator said:
Does anybody know how badly and why the recall failed? I can see he'll never answer.
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HERE is the original thread posted on the board regarding the recall efforts.
 
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ua767fo said:
Your wrong, wrong, and wrong. I ask you respectfully look at the parlimentary substructures of the US House of Representitives or the US Senate. How many bills never even make it out of committee to the floor for debate and consideration
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While you are absolutely right about our system of gov't, you are essentially equating a minor piece of legislation to a TA upon which the future of the entire company hinges upon. If the Congress of the United states had a bill under consideration that would save the USA from armageddon I somehow doubt it would be killed in committee. I think it is fair to compare something this big to a change to the Constitution or a referendum or the Presidential election.
 
enilria said:
While you are absolutely right about our system of gov't, you are essentially equating a minor piece of legislation to a TA upon which the future of the entire company hinges upon. If the Congress of the United states had a bill under consideration that would save the USA from armageddon I somehow doubt it would be killed in committee. I think it is fair to compare something this big to a change to the Constitution or a referendum or the Presidential election.
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I have news for ya...

If U and their need for employees' concession #3 are being compared to armageddon, then USAirways has absolutely no viable business plan and will surely perish.

Currenly, one group at a time, is perishing...and they have jobs!
 
enilria,

"I think it is fair to compare something this big to a change to the Constitution or a referendum or the Presidential election."

Since it appears that the TA will be coming out for a vote, this is academic. However, in your two examples, the citizens of this country do not get a direct vote. Constitutional amendments are ultimately ratified by the state legislatures and Presidents are elected by electors.

And how many proposed Constitutional amendments never make it out of Congress?

Jim
 
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BoeingBoy said:
However, in your two examples, the citizens of this country do not get a direct vote. Constitutional amendments are ultimately ratified by the state legislatures and Presidents are elected by electors.
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You are splitting hairs. I guess we all shouldn't vote for President because the electors are the real voters. Anyway, I'm not sure this TA will go out, but I hope it will.
 

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