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[anotherdelay]

Since I'm already set for myself that I think, is it the Christian thing to do or am I being a Schmuck for giving a crap? I do know if I have to choose between helping out people who went through hell and back just like me (More actually) and some kid who hasn't even filled out the application yet, that one is too easy.

the person who wrote for you stated with the hook,


Yes I do feel the sense of desire/ desperation/ sales pitch on the IAM side to get us in the plan to help maybe prop it up or hold it up. Question? Do I/ Should I feel maybe a Brotherly obligation/ care to help them out here? Since I'm already set for myself that I think, is it the Christian thing to do or am I being a Schmuck for giving a crap? I do know if I have to choose between helping out people who went through hell and back just like me (More actually) and some kid who hasn't even filled out the application yet, that one is too easy.

the bold is the hook to make it look like he's on your side. You guys are something else. Definition of scoundrel right there.

Anyway ever receive faciltor training, where youre trained to push buttons to soften up the arguement, so that if someone in the group disagrees, with the facilators positions, that person can be accused of being angry, insensititve, selfish, and so can anyone who agrees with the the person who disagrees with it too. Its very unethical, and is very transparent..so just respond with, are you facilitating again, and being disingenuous? What does a mismanaged pension fund with insane expense ratios, have to do with helping new guys get into a better retirement plan? Man some people were just born to be useless unethical tools. Hey dude, why don't go work for the fund, you would fit right in.

Due Diligence

 

[WeAAsles]

Since I'm already set for myself that I think, is it the Christian thing to do or am I being a Schmuck for giving a crap? I do know if I have to choose between helping out people who went through hell and back just like me (More actually) and some kid who hasn't even filled out the application yet, that one is too easy.

the person who wrote for you stated with the hook,


Yes I do feel the sense of desire/ desperation/ sales pitch on the IAM side to get us in the plan to help maybe prop it up or hold it up. Question? Do I/ Should I feel maybe a Brotherly obligation/ care to help them out here? Since I'm already set for myself that I think, is it the Christian thing to do or am I being a Schmuck for giving a crap? I do know if I have to choose between helping out people who went through hell and back just like me (More actually) and some kid who hasn't even filled out the application yet, that one is too easy.

the bold is the hook to make it look like he's on your side. You guys are something else. Definition of scoundrel right there.

Anyway ever receive faciltor training, where youre trained to push buttons to soften up the arguement, so that if someone in the group disagrees, with the facilators positions, that person can be accused of being angry, insensititve, selfish, and so can anyone who agrees with the the person who disagrees with it too. Its very unethical, and is very transparent..so just respond with, are you facilitating again, and being disingenuous? What does a mismanaged pension fund with insane expense ratios, have to do with helping new guys get into a better retirement plan? Man some people were just born to be useless unethical tools. Hey dude, why don't go work for the fund, you would fit right in.

Due Diligence

Josh the bad news honestly is the IAMPF that you feel is attached to you like the book by Alexandre Dumas will never be taken off your face and it's the Prison fortress where very little light shines.

But I will admit that I like how you think that I'm so psychologically adept that I incorporated a sneaky underhanded attempt at manipulation into the conversation here.

Again if this has the ability to soak into that thick skull of yours?

I do have some personal concerns about the IAMPF.
I WILL have questions prepared to ask when they send around their team to pitch it.
It's NOT a factor that will effect my Retirement forecast.
My current and future raises more than accommodate MY needs with my current investments.
And AGAIN for ME it's low on my priority list for concerns if it is in my JCBA with no option.

Some of course will throw the Baby out with the Bathwater if the Baby is floating in their tub. They have every right to do that of course. But I DO do my Due (Sounds like a song) Dilligence and I'll wait to see the ENTIRE package before I make up my mind.

And I'll reiterate one more time. YOU ain't getting out of it and you know that.

 

[WeAAsles]

BTW Scoundrel? Unforgiven?

 

[Matt1200]

I for one prefer a 401k match. I for one would also like more in my paycheck every week then profit sharing. The biggest hurdle will be medical and scope. I do not trust either unions. Unions today are a business and always looking out for the international and not the members. IMO

 

[Docker]

TWU Local 591 Membership Update 4/30/2017

April 30, 2017

To the Membership:

Hopefully by now most of you have seen this past week’s financial briefing on Jetnet, where myself and Dale Danker, Local 514’s president, asked Doug Parker some very specific questions on parity to the IAM. If you have not seen the video I am encouraging you to take the time to watch the segment labeled, “Parity for TWU-IAM” that is in the Jetnet headline titled “1Q State of the Airline.”

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Fraternally,

Gary Peterson

Enough of the going through both contracts line by line, it's like beating a dead horse. Adopt what's left of the IAM contract with expected improvements and lets get it done. Most of the IAM contract was superior to the TWU contract to begin with.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

Question? Do I/ Should I feel maybe a Brotherly obligation/ care to help them out here? Since I'm already set for myself that I think, is it the Christian thing to do or am I being a Schmuck for giving a crap? I do know if I have to choose between helping out people who went through hell and back just like me (More actually) and some kid who hasn't even filled out the application yet, that one is too easy.

I can't speak for you WeAAsles but my main responsibility is to my wife and to myself. There is no way I would compromise my wife's future or my future for a coworkers benefit.

I love how you have no problem putting the screws to the next generation as long as you get yours. That behavior pretty much defines the baby boomer generation.

Speaking as a FSC who makes way more than the average American in my education range and those kids going to walk into something maybe already beyond their wildest dreams financially do we owe them the World on a silver platter behind us?

You are right. You do make way more than the average American in your education range. Yet you constantly complain about how you are getting screwed. How the company owes YOU.

I would not call walking into a job with a 10 year top out (or more) and constant layoffs handing them the world on a silver platter. From what I have seen senior people see junior people as nothing more than layoff fodder. See the comment above.

I won't deny it is a decent living at the end of the tunnel but, it is a struggle getting there and hardly guaranteed. I also question if the investment of 10 years to top out is even worth it. That is 25 percent of most people's career. After I left American Airlines it took me all of 3 years to exceed my topped out pay at American Airlines.

How much buying power has an airline worker lost in the last 30 years? How much buying power is a new hire going to lose if he were hired today? How many times is he going to have to relocate to keep his job? I saw plenty of TWA guys, older married men, having to commute to work. What they got for a 30 year career in an Airline was a broken body, limited employment options, and having to share an apartment with coworkers just to make their bills. You factor all of those things in and it hardly seems like a dream job.

I will tell you I put 12 years in and I feel I really have nothing to show for it. I could have bumped or put a transfer into another title group at TULE. I did not have to hit the street. I am sure for some it may be a dream job but for me it was a painful lesson on making bad choices. American Airlines for me was a bad choice. I don't feel like I got enough out of it over 12 years to justify my investment in it.

After hiring in as a JFSC, a LONG 10 year top out, getting laid off 3 times, and working with a bunch of lazy, entitled people, where in that equation do you think I owe anyone anything?

Frankly I find your post very arrogant. You are nothing special WeAAsles. They did not hire you because you had anything great to offer. You were simply a file off the pile. It could have just as easily been anyone else. You did not join the UNION you were conscripted into it. We all were. You may support the UNION but it is not because you want to better pay and working conditions for your fellow man, it is because you want something out of it. If you were interested in helping your fellow man your attitude would not be prospective employees owe ME. That says a lot about your particular brand of "UNIONism".

Or if it's like you said and they don't have a choice and are automatically placed in the IAMPF do THEY maybe OWE you and me something? They're the ones right now walking into this industry with the Sun shining.

They are also the ones that are going to get stuck with YOUR retirement bill. You get the reward and they get the bill as you kick the cost down the road. See the comment above.

 

[Traymark]

Well, this association thing is going quite well, don't ya think?
Harry got his and punched out with golden parachute attached, who's next...

 

[AANOTOK]

Well, this association thing is going quite well, don't ya think?
Harry got his and punched out with golden parachute attached, who's next...

You know something I haven't heard.

 

[AANOTOK]

Never mind, it only gets better...lovely!

 

[dfw gen]

At the TWU International Executive Council meeting today, Executive Vice President John Samuelsen was elevated to International President after incumbent President Harry Lombardo unexpectedly announced his retirement, effective immediately. Samuelsen is President of TWU’s largest affiliate, Local 100 in New York City, which is also the nation’s biggest transportation local union with 42,000 active members.

Samuelsen, 49, becomes TWU’s 10th International President and the youngest to achieve that position since founder Michael J. Quill in 1937.

A lifelong Brooklynite, Samuelsen joined TWU in 1993 after signing on with the New York City Transit Authority as a Trackworker.

He was elected Local 100 President in December 2009 and was overwhelmingly reelected in 2012 and 2015.

Samuelsen pledged to bring the same kind of aggressive, militant leadership to the International Union that marked his leadership of Local 100 for the past seven and a half years.

During that time, he fought two multi-faceted contract campaigns that brought home agreements with the Metropolitan Transportation Authority (MTA) that outpaced every public-sector contract in wages and benefits in New York City and the state, including for the first time, the uniformed services.

He also took on and defeated New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio in several high profile public battles, regularly calling attention to anti trade union positions embraced by some so called “progressives” in the Democratic Party, including the mayor himself.

As Local 100 President, he worked tirelessly to bridge political divides within the union and stop the infighting that had torn the Local in half for more than a decade. He committed to bring this approach of respect and unity to his new role as national leader to forge a fighting, democratic TWU across the country.

Samuelsen emphasized that the core leadership of TWU remains strongly united with Secretary-Treasurer Alex Garcia, and Administrative Vice Presidents Gary Maslanka and John Bland, all standing firmly as one. He said the leadership’s immediate priority will be working with the TWU national bargaining committee on all of the union’s pressing national contracts, including the vital American Airlines negotiations, which covers over 25,000 TWU members nationwide. Samuelsen said he will continue in his role as Local 100 President for the short term, to see through the implementation of the most recently negotiated agreement for the Local’s largest bargaining unit, the 38,000 members at MTA-NYCT, MTA-MABSTOA and MTA Bus.

In his earliest days on the job with New York City Transit, Samuelsen took on Track Department bosses over numerous safety concerns affecting his co-workers. He was elected a Shop Steward before he completed his probationary employment. From 2001–2006 he served as Chair of the Track Safety Committee, Chair of the Track Division, and acting Vice President of the Maintenance of Way Division from 2002–2005. He worked his way up from the ranks and has served in nearly every union position in Local 100.

Like TWU’s founding President, Michael J. Quill, Samuelsen is an ardent believer in industrial trade unionism. He explained his philosophy of leadership to the International Executive Council in the following manner: aggressively take on management to win the best contracts possible for TWU members; develop a strategic plan to organize new workers across all of our industrial sectors; utilize the resources of the International union to fight back against governmental fiscal austerity in public transit; work alongside TWU locals to develop and fight strategic campaigns to advance the union; and challenge the Democratic Party to once again become the party that wholeheartedly represents the interests of the trade union movement and blue-collar America.

 

[dfw gen]

theres another 6 months added to no-go-tiations. pathetic simply pathetic. can we please go with some one else, how long can we stand this?

 

[dfw gen]

im begging the membership to please dump the twu. ill donate, please take my money the damn mickey mouse club would be better then this.

 

[AANOTOK]

Are we sure Jerry Jones isn't involved...he is the A1 ringleader of the biggest circus in the world!

 

[Albert]

At the TWU International Executive Council meeting today, Executive Vice President John Samuelsen was elevated to International President after incumbent President Harry Lombardo unexpectedly announced his retirement, effective immediately. Samuelsen is President of TWU’s largest affiliate, Local 100 in New York City, which is also the nation’s biggest transportation local union with 42,000 active members.

Samuelsen, 49, becomes TWU’s 10th International President and the youngest to achieve that position since founder Michael J. Quill in 1937.

A lifelong Brooklynite, Samuelsen joined TWU in 1993 after signing on with the New York City Transit Authority as a Trackworker.

He was elected Local 100 President in December 2009 and was overwhelmingly reelected in 2012 and 2015.

Samuelsen pledged to bring the same kind of aggressive, militant leadership to the International Union that marked his leadership of Local 100 for the past seven and a half years.

During that time, he fought two multi-faceted contract campaigns that brought home agreements with the Metropolitan Transportation Authority (MTA) that outpaced every public-sector contract in wages and benefits in New York City and the state, including for the first time, the uniformed services.

He also took on and defeated New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio in several high profile public battles, regularly calling attention to anti trade union positions embraced by some so called “progressives” in the Democratic Party, including the mayor himself.

As Local 100 President, he worked tirelessly to bridge political divides within the union and stop the infighting that had torn the Local in half for more than a decade. He committed to bring this approach of respect and unity to his new role as national leader to forge a fighting, democratic TWU across the country.

Samuelsen emphasized that the core leadership of TWU remains strongly united with Secretary-Treasurer Alex Garcia, and Administrative Vice Presidents Gary Maslanka and John Bland, all standing firmly as one. He said the leadership’s immediate priority will be working with the TWU national bargaining committee on all of the union’s pressing national contracts, including the vital American Airlines negotiations, which covers over 25,000 TWU members nationwide. Samuelsen said he will continue in his role as Local 100 President for the short term, to see through the implementation of the most recently negotiated agreement for the Local’s largest bargaining unit, the 38,000 members at MTA-NYCT, MTA-MABSTOA and MTA Bus.

In his earliest days on the job with New York City Transit, Samuelsen took on Track Department bosses over numerous safety concerns affecting his co-workers. He was elected a Shop Steward before he completed his probationary employment. From 2001–2006 he served as Chair of the Track Safety Committee, Chair of the Track Division, and acting Vice President of the Maintenance of Way Division from 2002–2005. He worked his way up from the ranks and has served in nearly every union position in Local 100.

Like TWU’s founding President, Michael J. Quill, Samuelsen is an ardent believer in industrial trade unionism. He explained his philosophy of leadership to the International Executive Council in the following manner: aggressively take on management to win the best contracts possible for TWU members; develop a strategic plan to organize new workers across all of our industrial sectors; utilize the resources of the International union to fight back against governmental fiscal austerity in public transit; work alongside TWU locals to develop and fight strategic campaigns to advance the union; and challenge the Democratic Party to once again become the party that wholeheartedly represents the interests of the trade union movement and blue-collar America.

At the TWU International Executive Council meeting today, Executive Vice President John Samuelsen was elevated to International President after incumbent President Harry Lombardo unexpectedly announced his retirement, effective immediately. Samuelsen is President of TWU’s largest affiliate, Local 100 in New York City, which is also the nation’s biggest transportation local union with 42,000 active members.

Samuelsen, 49, becomes TWU’s 10th International President and the youngest to achieve that position since founder Michael J. Quill in 1937.

A lifelong Brooklynite, Samuelsen joined TWU in 1993 after signing on with the New York City Transit Authority as a Trackworker.

He was elected Local 100 President in December 2009 and was overwhelmingly reelected in 2012 and 2015.

Samuelsen pledged to bring the same kind of aggressive, militant leadership to the International Union that marked his leadership of Local 100 for the past seven and a half years.

During that time, he fought two multi-faceted contract campaigns that brought home agreements with the Metropolitan Transportation Authority (MTA) that outpaced every public-sector contract in wages and benefits in New York City and the state, including for the first time, the uniformed services.

He also took on and defeated New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio in several high profile public battles, regularly calling attention to anti trade union positions embraced by some so called “progressives” in the Democratic Party, including the mayor himself.

As Local 100 President, he worked tirelessly to bridge political divides within the union and stop the infighting that had torn the Local in half for more than a decade. He committed to bring this approach of respect and unity to his new role as national leader to forge a fighting, democratic TWU across the country.

Samuelsen emphasized that the core leadership of TWU remains strongly united with Secretary-Treasurer Alex Garcia, and Administrative Vice Presidents Gary Maslanka and John Bland, all standing firmly as one. He said the leadership’s immediate priority will be working with the TWU national bargaining committee on all of the union’s pressing national contracts, including the vital American Airlines negotiations, which covers over 25,000 TWU members nationwide. Samuelsen said he will continue in his role as Local 100 President for the short term, to see through the implementation of the most recently negotiated agreement for the Local’s largest bargaining unit, the 38,000 members at MTA-NYCT, MTA-MABSTOA and MTA Bus.

In his earliest days on the job with New York City Transit, Samuelsen took on Track Department bosses over numerous safety concerns affecting his co-workers. He was elected a Shop Steward before he completed his probationary employment. From 2001–2006 he served as Chair of the Track Safety Committee, Chair of the Track Division, and acting Vice President of the Maintenance of Way Division from 2002–2005. He worked his way up from the ranks and has served in nearly every union position in Local 100.

Like TWU’s founding President, Michael J. Quill, Samuelsen is an ardent believer in industrial trade unionism. He explained his philosophy of leadership to the International Executive Council in the following manner: aggressively take on management to win the best contracts possible for TWU members; develop a strategic plan to organize new workers across all of our industrial sectors; utilize the resources of the International union to fight back against governmental fiscal austerity in public transit; work alongside TWU locals to develop and fight strategic campaigns to advance the union; and challenge the Democratic Party to once again become the party that wholeheartedly represents the interests of the trade union movement and blue-collar America.

I don't feel like reading the whole Bio does it state where he was educated?

 

[2ndGENAMT]

Sounds like he went to Goldbrick University!!