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[bigjets]

https://www.gofundme.com/9wqx2-eliminate-the-association

Impressive amount of money in a short amount of time. I wonder how the association will respond? It times past, this is when they are to come up with an agreement

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

AMP is probably our best choice.

Yes indeed. These mutliemployer UNIONs are toxic.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

You sure acted like a pseudo martyr La Li. You stated how you got laid off and then tried to tie that in with your bias UNION hatred when I stated you were an outsider on this AMT thread. It was the benevolent company that closed your shop. Not the UNION.

When they closed my shop the only 2 Fleet Service Clerks from TUL and TULE that did not bump or take the layoff were the 2 UNION officers who, by the way, were pushing a yes vote on a concessionary contract.

You choose to take the lay off, instead of transferring to another station out of TULE. No matter how you quantify it, you left. Don't know what a "early layoff" is. Don't care about your life story either. However, it's somewhat disturbing to me that you are demented enough to waste time on the AMT thread your not part of and the AA board to constantly throw out your vitriol and dissent against those of us working here. Your AA wife doesn't post here (I assume), why not? I hope she isn't a UNION member. That would be turmoil in the La Li house for her.

My "vitriol and dissent" as you call it has been directed toward the TWU as a whole, not individuals. The TWU took my dues for 12 years then turned a blind eye to 2 officers benefiting from an under the table deal while pushing a concessionary contract. The TWU then entered into an Association without the input of the TWU membership. I have nothing against the concept of a UNION however, The TWU and UNIONs in general seem more motivated to fund the Democratic party and push propaganda than they do representing employees.

But of course, you would. The company management likes and endorses the hostile work environment, it was bad for many years. Now it's much worse with DUI Doug Parker and his band of merry misfits. Look at how horrible US Air, Northwest, and America West management treated its employees over the years. DUI Doug states in his company propaganda he wants to "change the culture of distrust" with laughable slogans like "Validate the Trust" and "Team Member". In so far, nothing but lies and empty words. Watch the management back stabbing increase as lay-offs come for them. They eat their own more than we do. Witnessed it for 30 years, only it has gotten worse with AA's fall into the commuter airline status with the new executives pillaging the airline while we have 24 billion in debt. Spending over $1 billion on a new massive "Parker Place" headquarters while Delta kicks our tail all over the sky. Parker makes double the yearly compensation of Gary Kelly at SWA. Won the lottery...every year since 2014.

The fact I found the white collar side less toxic has more to do with the fact that those workers worry less about making themselves into perpetual victims (which is what the TWU likes and endorses by the way) and more about accomplishing thier tasks. For instance, when the company does something for them (like catering food for example), they are thankful. They don't allow food to go in the garbage (in a world where people are literally starving to death and American children go hungry every day) because they are pushing some misguided principal about "getting back" at the company.

You despise anything UNION, all of them, and you seem like sociopath.

I despise faux UNIONs using my money for political agendas that have NOTHING to do with labor. I despise faux UNIONS pushing political propaganda that have NOTHING to do with labor. I don't despise UNIONs Hackman. I despise giving dues to a money laundering, propaganda spewing, organization masquerading as a UNION.

The difference between you and me is I came to the realization that the TWU ceased to be a UNION long ago.

If you want to see a fine example of a sociopath look no further than those who gifted you with the "Association" while claiming to represent you.

Let me know when I can start posting my outsider opinions and vitriol about your career on your Programmer BB site.

Well first off, I am not a programmer, I am a computer network specialist. Second feel free to post your opinions wherever you want. Unlike you I don't feel my career choice is my personal domain. I don't champion myself as a person who decides if another person is worthy of expressing his opinion. Especially if that person worked in the same industry (though not the same occupation) for 12 years.

 

[B737 driver]

When they closed my shop the only 2 Fleet Service Clerks from TUL and TULE that did not bump or take the layoff were the 2 UNION officers who, by the way, were pushing a yes vote on a concessionary contract.

My "vitriol and dissent" as you call it has been directed toward the TWU as a whole, not individuals. The TWU took my dues for 12 years then turned a blind eye to 2 officers benefiting from an under the table deal while pushing a concessionary contract. The TWU then entered into an Association without the input of the TWU membership. I have nothing against the concept of a UNION however, The TWU and UNIONs in general seem more motivated to fund the Democratic party and push propaganda than they do representing employees.

The fact I found the white collar side less toxic has more to do with the fact that those workers worry less about making themselves into perpetual victims (which is what the TWU likes and endorses by the way) and more about accomplishing thier tasks. For instance, when the company does something for them (like catering food for example), they are thankful. They don't allow food to go in the garbage (in a world where people are literally starving to death and American children go hungry every day) because they are pushing some misguided principal about "getting back" at the company.

I despise faux UNIONs using my money for political agendas that have NOTHING to do with labor. I despise faux UNIONS pushing political propaganda that have NOTHING to do with labor. I don't despise UNIONs Hickman. I despise giving dues to a money laundering, propaganda spewing, organization masquerading as a UNION.

The difference between you and me is I came to the realization that the TWU ceased to be a UNION long ago.

If you want to see a fine example of a sociopath look no further than those who gifted you with the "Association" while claiming to represent you.

Well first off, I am not a programmer, I am a computer network specialist. Second feel free to post your opinions wherever you want. Unlike you I don't feel my career choice is my personal domain. I don't champion myself as a person who decides if another person is worthy of expressing his opinion. Especially if that person worked in the same industry (though not the same occupation) for 12 years.

Bamn , well said sir!!

 

[swamt]

Impressive amount of money in a short amount of time. I wonder how the association will respond? It times past, this is when they are to come up with an agreement

Yes indeed, Shows how serious they are to reach their goal. Looking great guys, hope you reach your goal by the end of this month if not sooner. Good luck...

 

[Hackman]

When they closed my shop the only 2 Fleet Service Clerks from TUL and TULE that did not bump or take the layoff were the 2 UNION officers who, by the way, were pushing a yes vote on a concessionary contract.

A lot worse events have happened with the TWu than the closing of your shop and the two TWu officers that scammed the process. The TWu past injustices are much larger than what happened to just you. You accepted the lay off because you didn't want to leave Tulsa, used the free government money to go to school, left the compAAny, but haven't moved on with your life. Your here...to tell me...what the TWu has done wrong. Thanks for the joke.

My "vitriol and dissent" as you call it has been directed toward the TWU as a whole, not individuals. The TWU took my dues for 12 years then turned a blind eye to 2 officers benefiting from an under the table deal while pushing a concessionary contract. The TWU then entered into an Association without the input of the TWU membership. I have nothing against the concept of a UNION however, The TWU and UNIONs in general seem more motivated to fund the Democratic party and push propaganda than they do representing employees.

Preaching to the choir here La Li. I stated in my aforementioned post, much worse TWu events have happened than just you and your plight. I know you want to make everything about you or your AA wife. You have a problem with unions pandering to democrats, me too. The AFl-CIo unions are that way, I don't take kindly being told how to vote. Off topic discussion better suited to the Cooler.

The fact I found the white collar side less toxic has more to do with the fact that those workers worry less about making themselves into perpetual victims (which is what the TWU likes and endorses by the way) and more about accomplishing thier tasks. For instance, when the company does something for them (like catering food for example), they are thankful. They don't allow food to go in the garbage (in a world where people are literally starving to death and American children go hungry every day) because they are pushing some misguided principal about "getting back" at the company.

You can have you opinion about management vs union toxicity, but you didn't stay in management, so what does that say? No matter, don't care. If management accomplished it's tasks then bankruptcy and business plan failure wouldn't be necessary now would it? Untouchable management bonuses, retirement plans, and stock options in bankruptcy irregardless of performance is horse shite. Also since you don't know because your an outsider, the rejected company food was donated to the homeless, not thrown in the trash. It wasn't about "getting back" at the company you stated in your diatribe. It was about respect, division, photo ops. The company refuses to respect it's workers, and wants joyous photo ops to post in it's propaganda. Management could repair the division, as they continuously state they want to accomplish in propaganda, but they refuse to do so in their actions. You might invite a enemy to meal, but I wouldn't.

I despise faux UNIONs using my money for political agendas that have NOTHING to do with labor. I despise faux UNIONS pushing political propaganda that have NOTHING to do with labor. I don't despise UNIONs Hackman. I despise giving dues to a money laundering, propaganda spewing, organization masquerading as a UNION.

The difference between you and me is I came to the realization that the TWU ceased to be a UNION long ago.

If you want to see a fine example of a sociopath look no further than those who gifted you with the "Association" while claiming to represent you.

Again, your no longer in a union, so therefore your opinions amount to your bias opinions of an outsider. You never got involved to change representation, I have. You never represented anyone in a union, I have. Nobody I know wanted this "Association" (or the USukAir merger) it was forced upon us by the NMB and the AFl-CIo. Attempts were made to reject it, but were overruled. Many are working to change this, but it's hard to do. It's on the front burner.

Well first off, I am not a programmer, I am a computer network specialist. Second feel free to post your opinions wherever you want. Unlike you I don't feel my career choice is my personal domain. I don't champion myself as a person who decides if another person is worthy of expressing his opinion. Especially if that person worked in the same industry (though not the same occupation) for 12 years.

Programmer, specialist, still no longer an employee at AA. You can post your bias opinions as you wish, but they will be rejected off hand because, for the most part, you don't know what your talking about. Such as the diatribe about the company food. You were not here, so you assume you know the motives and what actually happened. You were wrong...again.

Not interested in any more engagement with you, good luck with your specialist career path.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

A lot worse events have happened with the TWu than the closing of your shop and the two TWu officers that scammed the process. The TWu past injustices are much larger than what happened to just you.

Would you happen to have a t-shirt that says an injustice against one is an injustice against all?

I know you want to make everything about you or your AA wife.

If you say so Hackman, seems you have no end of challenges and accusations.

You have a problem with unions pandering to democrats, me too. The AFl-CIo unions are that way, I don't take kindly being told how to vote. Off topic discussion better suited to the Cooler.

Misappropriation of UNION dues is very ON topic Hackman.

Also since you don't know because your an outsider, the rejected company food was donated to the homeless, not thrown in the trash. It wasn't about "getting back" at the company you stated in your diatribe. It was about respect, division, photo ops. The company refuses to respect it's workers, and wants joyous photo ops to post in it's propaganda. Management could repair the division, as they continuously state they want to accomplish in propaganda, but they refuse to do so in their actions. You might invite a enemy to meal, but I wouldn't.

You think they never catered when I was there Hackman? It was the same thing back then. I never heard one word about donating anything. So you consider everyone in management your enemy Hackman?

You can post your bias opinions as you wish, but they will be rejected off hand because, for the most part, you don't know what your talking about. Such as the diatribe about the company food. You were not here, so you assume you know the motives and what actually happened. You were wrong...again..

I know exactly what I am talking about, you just don't like what I have to say. Again they catered when I worked there as well and it was the same story. Nothing new and nothing has changed. I never heard one person talking about donating anything. It was only people laughing about the thought of the company paying for all that food to just sit there.

Seems to me you just want to fight everyone Hackman.

 

[B737 driver]

Would you happen to have a t-shirt that says an injustice against one is an injustice against all?

If you say so Hackman, seems you have no end of challenges and accusations.

Misappropriation of UNION dues is very ON topic Hackman.

You think they never catered when I was there Hackman? It was the same thing back then. I never heard one word about donating anything. So you consider everyone in management your enemy Hackman?

I know exactly what I am talking about, you just don't like what I have to say. Again they catered when I worked there as well and it was the same story. Nothing new and nothing has changed. I never heard one person talking about donating anything. It was only people laughing about the thought of the company paying for all that food to just sit there.

Seems to me you just want to fight everyone Hackman.

He just likes to put everyone down that doesn't fit into little box of his view of the world. If you look at his post from 10 years-ago it's the same.

 

[Hackman]

Would you happen to have a t-shirt that says an injustice against one is an injustice against all?

I'm fresh out. Your wife took my last one La Li Pop

If you say so Hackman, seems you have no end of challenges and accusations.

If you say so La Li Pop. Looks to me like your the one that's challenged.

Misappropriation of UNION dues is very ON topic Hackman.

You should be filing charges any day now on those illegal activities. Hopefully, you'll get your misappropriated union dues back.

You think they never catered when I was there Hackman? It was the same thing back then. I never heard one word about donating anything. So you consider everyone in management your enemy Hackman?

Well, I do know your full of shet now. Rejecting company swill started about 2014 as a general movement, and I don't think you were an AA employee then. You weren't on the property to hear anything, BS artist. You'll have to ask management about who they consider an ememy, it's a long list unfortunately.

I know exactly what I am talking about, you just don't like what I have to say. Again they catered when I worked there as well and it was the same story. Nothing new and nothing has changed. I never heard one person talking about donating anything. It was only people laughing about the thought of the company paying for all that food to just sit there.

Seems to me you just want to fight everyone Hackman.

You don't know what your talking about, as I said your a full of shet. The general movement didn't start taking off until 2014. In addition, most (not all) of TULE wouldn't reject a dried up company soy burger if it was free, at least from what I have heard from guys that actually work there. The company food here in DFW was donated to the homeless shelter La Li Pop. So your lies have been dismissed in full.

I fight everyone? Only liars, punks, drunks, and cowards. Also lost souls who got their nose stuck in business that no longer concerns them.

Your wife can keep my Injustice shirt

 

[Hackman]

He just likes to put everyone down that doesn't fit into little box of his view of the world. If you look at his post from 10 years-ago it's the same.

10 years ago you were still living on your knees and begging the man for overtime. Maybe work your under-the-desk magic on your SWA management to get your pay raise Reamster Roy.

 

[B737 driver]

10 years ago you were still living on your knees and begging the man for overtime. Maybe work your under-the-desk magic on your SWA management to get your pay raise Reamster Roy.

No pretty much happy, as a mechanic, wasn't a crew chief then, however your post are the same life sucks, I hate management. My pay raise was in my contract, that AMFA did an extension, on a Teamsters contract, nice try thoughtless, on your part. Your responses to people look like a Bot program, are you sure your not a program that La Li Lu forgot to DELETE before he left American, you pretty much seem to run on autopilot.

 

[swamt]

https://www.gofundme.com/9wqx2-eliminate-the-association

Very impressive guys. Keep it up and good luck. Look forward to hearing some updates on this.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

Well, I do know your full of shet now. Rejecting company swill started about 2014 as a general movement, and I don't think you were an AA employee then. You weren't on the property to hear anything, BS artist. You'll have to ask management about who they consider an ememy, it's a long list unfortunately.

You don't know what your talking about, as I said your a full of shet. The general movement didn't start taking off until 2014. In addition, most (not all) of TULE wouldn't reject a dried up company soy burger if it was free, at least from what I have heard from guys that actually work there. The company food here in DFW was donated to the homeless shelter La Li Pop. So your lies have been dismissed in full.

They probably did in DFW. Maybe they did in Tulsa as well, I don't know. What I do know is large groups of people at TULE were taking pleasure in the company spending money for food to just sit there. Apparently they were not aware of donation efforts either, if there even were any at TULE.

Second you don't know what the hell you are talking about. I am sure anyone from TULE can validate people were being "encouraged" not to eat catered food before 2014.

I fight everyone? Only liars, punks, drunks, and cowards. Also lost souls who got their nose stuck in business that no longer concerns them.

Stop being modest. I am sure your list is MUCH longer than that.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

Your responses to people look like a Bot program, are you sure your not a program that La Li Lu forgot to DELETE before he left American, you pretty much seem to run on autopilot.

More like a puppet I can manipulate and control at my leisure.

Hackman is so aggressive and stupid it does not take much to wind him up.

 

[B737 driver]

More like a puppet I can manipulate and control at my leisure.

Hackman is so aggressive and stupid it does not take much to wind him up.

He is borderline personality disorder, acts like he is hero, he was probably the kid in the play ground taking the other kids lunch money.