Airbus A321 AC 191

[blue collar]

A real slap in the face, because airbus is covering the repair under warranty I would think. So usair would be out no money, and still decided to use timco people instead of their own. I wonder if this is a sign of how well negotiations are going...

 

[Squonk]

Airbus has not agreed to cover the costs of this repair. Apparently it has not yet been determined who is culpable. That said, our insurance is covering the repair costs including lost revenues. Liabilities will be hashed out later. B)

 

[nycbusdriver]

A real slap in the face, because airbus is covering the repair under warranty I would think. So usair would be out no money, and still decided to use timco people instead of their own. I wonder if this is a sign of how well negotiations are going...

Airbus has not agreed to cover the costs of this repair. Apparently it has not yet been determined who is culpable. That said, our insurance is covering the repair costs including lost revenues. Liabilities will be hashed out later. B)

Well, if Airbus or the insurance company is footing the bill for this, I would say that they should have the right to determine who does the work. Unless the US Airways IAM has a specific clause in their contract with Airbus or the insurer that the work is theirs, they have no beef if Temco, Pimco, Texaco or Costco fixes the damn thing.

(If it's Texaco or Costco, though, I'm on board with refusing to fly the aircraft.)

 

[skinvalve]

US has about 60 A321's in the fleet with more on order. Each aircraft has two RIB 5 fittings. One has been found cracked. How long will it be before a second , a third, etc are found? The potential for future work is probably big. That's why it's important to do this work IN HOUSE now. Once the precedence for farming out this job is set it will not come back.

 

[john john]

I thought USAirways mechanics won a binding arbitration award to do all airbus work
Arbitrations come and go

 

[700UW]

Wow, a shot fired.

You know they did win the arbitration, the CBA that upheld the award was abrogated in Bankruptcy Court. Since then an agreement was reached to have 50% in-house and 50% outsourced of total maintenance.

Keep your jab about the pilots on their thread, not here, and you are confusing a labor-management arbitration which is scope language not a seniority dispute between two labor groups.

 

[700UW]

Wow, a shot fired.

You know they did win the arbitration, the CBA that upheld the award was abrogated in Bankruptcy Court. Since then an agreement was reached to have 50% in-house and 50% outsourced of total maintenance.

Keep your jab about the pilots on their thread, not here, and you are confusing a labor-management arbitration which is scope language not a seniority dispute between two labor groups.

 

[skinvalve]

There were two great IAM/US membership court victories. One was the 401K company match funding and the other was the Airbus in house work. The IAM endorsed and US membership approved Transition Agreement of Mar 2008 put and end to both.

 

[700UW]

The 401k was not a court victory, it was an arbitration.

The Airbus was in court first, but the appeals court remanded it to arbitration.

And you forgot the HMO arbitration too.

So they were all won in arbitration.

 

[john john]

Since then an agreement was reached to have 50% in-house and 50% outsourced of total maintenance.

negotiated

 

[700UW]

You dont get it do you?

Our CBA was abrogated in 05 and a final offer ratified that was a total new agreement. The CBA that upheld the arbitration was declared dead, null and void.

And that TA was the second bk cba, that did the 50-50 split.

So dont let the facts get in your way.

 

[john john]

total new agreement.

Reached by whom and didn’t have arbitration awards in it
Was the final offers negotiated with improvements?

 

[skinvalve]

The narrow body fleet maintenance is split 50/50 between IN HOUSE and OUT HOUSE maintenance.

 

[john john]

The narrow body fleet maintenance is split 50/50 between IN HOUSE and OUT HOUSE maintenance.

Got it IAM bargain/negotiated for 50% of narrow body airbus work to be done in house

 

[700UW]

Yes three years after the chapter 11 when the cba was abrogated. The award was never negotiated away,