Absolutely Unsanitary Fc Experience Last Night

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US 45 10/21/04 PIT-LAX

Uneventful flight. 3 dinner choices:
-Chicken w/potatoes and carrots
-Salmon in a cream sauce
-Shrimp/chicken cold plate

We order, and the f/a's do the drink orders. The male FA working in the galley is preparing the food, and mind you is not wearing gloves. I can deal w/ that as long as he/she has washed their hands. However, this **shole decided to take the trash cart out from it's rack, push it down with his bare hands to get more space, and then go right back to preparing the food, WITHOUT WASHING HIS HANDS!! Is it just me, or is that one of the absolutely nastiest things that an f/a could do short of going to the bathroom and then cooking your dinner without "cleaning up"? CA has received an email from me about this because imho, that is just immoral and unacceptable. He could get make alot of people extremely ill because of actions like that.

I asked where they were based and was told PIT. They should be ashamed of themselves.
 
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There are no gloves for food preparation on the aircraft, or for garbage collection (except MDA flights where F/As clean the plane and then serve food). F/As are not not expected or required to wear gloves. It is assumed that they do wash thier hands. (Not on some of those Express planes with no running water! Don't know what those folks do...)

Are you positive there was any trash in the cart? If he was just pulling it out of the galley, it may not have been used yet. They may have filled the galley trash and now needed the cart, and he was simply pushing the plastic bag down (they are often knotted or bunched before you put anything in them, making less space). If it was still in the galley (rack?), there's no way to put any refuse in it, they only have a hole in the top.

Now, if there was refuse in the cart (maybe it had been pulled out and then put back for some reason, like turbulence?) the pushing down with his hands is not cool, if he had to do it then he should have tried to go to the restroom and wash his hands.

An unsanitary mistake, but I sure hope it doesn't cost him his job. They are just looking for reasons to fire the topped-out F/As. Mentioning it to him or the A F/A, emphasizing the health concerns, probably would have had a better result... he'd have been embarassed and likely more aware. With the date and flight number posted here, many will look up that flight to see who it was.

Definately not very First Class though, and hopefully your next experience will be better.

Just out of curiosity, why do people always feel the need to say "the male F/A" and "the female pilot"... are they somehow different?
 
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There was trash in it because I had just gone to the lav and he moved it so I could get back to my seat, and yes, I know there is only a hole in the top
 
Now I'm really curious. There was a trash cart in the AISLE in First Class? They should only be in the galley or against the wall by the 1L door. They should never be in the aisle in First? They should really never be in view of customers at all (that's why all of the carts look exactly alike). I wonder what they were doing.

A big part of First/Envoy Class service is just making it look good, no matter how limited it is. Perhaps the fact that the company lost the plot on customer service long ago has rubbed off one some frontline people. Sad.
 
Light Years said:
(Not on some of those Express planes with no running water! Don't know what those folks do...)
[post="193935"][/post]​

our aircraft (at alg/pdt) have sanitizing lotion dispensers in them, they are also stocked with, at the least, alcohol wipes and if were lucky, the good saniwipes packets

every fa that i work with (to the best of my knowledge) always use the lotion and/or the good wipes (if available) before serving
 
I was on a Shuttle America flight where there was no wipes, the F/A said they rarely had them (look who we are talking about though).

I do seem to remember seeing sanitary lotion on the Dash 8s.
 
So what if he pulled the trash cart out. At least you don't see what goes on when you can't see them in the galley. If your over 35, consider yourself lucky............................People over 35 should be dead.


Here's why ............
According to today's regulators and bureaucrats, those of us who were kids in the 40's, 50's, 60's, or even the early 70's probably shouldn't have survived.

Our baby cribs were covered with bright colored lead-based paint.

We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors or cabinets, .... ! and when we rode our bikes, we had no helmets. (Not to mention the risks we took hitchhiking.)

As children, we would ride in cars with no seatbelts or air bags.

Riding in the back of a pickup truck on a warm day was always a special treat.

We drank water from the garden hose and not from a bottle.

Horrors!

We ate cupcakes, bread and butter, and drank soda pop with sugar in it, but we were never  overweight because we were always outside playing.

We shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle, and no one actually died from this.

We would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps and then rode down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes.

After running into the bushes a few times, we learned to solve the problem.

We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back when the street lights came on.

No one was able to reach us all day.

NO CELL PHONES!!!!!

Unthinkable!

We did not have Playstations, Nintendo 64, X-Boxes, no video games at all, no 99 channels on cable, video tape movies, surround sound, personal cell phones, personal computers, or Internet
chat rooms.

We had friends!

We went outside and found them.

so, a little fumenda from his hands ain't going kill you. :up: :up:
 
US 45 10/21/04 PIT-LAX

Uneventful flight. 3 dinner choices:
-Chicken w/potatoes and carrots
-Salmon in a cream sauce
-Shrimp/chicken cold plate

We order, and the f/a's do the drink orders. The male FA working in the galley is preparing the food, and mind you is not wearing gloves. I can deal w/ that as long as he/she has washed their hands. However, this **shole decided to take the trash cart out from it's rack, push it down with his bare hands to get more space, and then go right back to preparing the food, WITHOUT WASHING HIS HANDS!!



Sky High states: WHY bring YOUR DIRTY LAUNDRY to this board? I'm sure the other airline employees LOVE reading this drama! :down:

secondly, anyone working first class cabin, would NOT HAVE TO TOUCH the FOOD ANYWAY.....yet working IN THE GALLEY requires YOU to touch many surfaces, the coffee pot.....the compartment where dry goods are kept, the FOOD CART where the meals are kept. etc......
and, IMAGINE WHO TOUCHED YOUR "FOOD" before it arrived onboard the aircraft!

unreal!
 
GSO talks like the type, there would have been something wrong regardless. I hope you didn't spend the whole flight staring at the flight attendant. If you had, they were most likely getting flustered wondering why they were being watched in that way. Stare someone down and they are bound to make a mistake or forget to do something.

I am sure though there were times that the f/a was out of sight and those are the times you cannot say for certain they did nothing to sanitize their hands. At AA since we never seem to be able to get in to the toilet, and if we stopped and waited for the toilet to open. We would likely get a letter by someone offended we were observed just standing there waiting for the toilet.

What we used to do was use a 7 cent bottle of SKY vodka to sanitize hands when we had to touch other things in the galley during the food service. Never know, that flight attendant may have done the same or had something else at his disposal.

I just think it was a cheap shot to not ask them. Simply write the company and accuse them and then go to on and post it on the web. Its shows a true lack of class on your part.
 
And whinned all the way to LAX...they pay 89.00 for their ticket, get upgrade to first and still complain about it....geeze.......
 
gso2pit said:
US 45 10/21/04 PIT-LAX

Uneventful flight. 3 dinner choices:
-Chicken w/potatoes and carrots
-Salmon in a cream sauce
-Shrimp/chicken cold plate

We order, and the f/a's do the drink orders. The male FA working in the galley is preparing the food, and mind you is not wearing gloves. I can deal w/ that as long as he/she has washed their hands. However, this **shole decided to take the trash cart out from it's rack, push it down with his bare hands to get more space, and then go right back to preparing the food, WITHOUT WASHING HIS HANDS!! Is it just me, or is that one of the absolutely nastiest things that an f/a could do short of going to the bathroom and then cooking your dinner without "cleaning up"? CA has received an email from me about this because imho, that is just immoral and unacceptable. He could get make alot of people extremely ill because of actions like that.

I asked where they were based and was told PIT. They should be ashamed of themselves.

:angry:
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Thanks for the info
 
gso2pit said:
There was trash in it because I had just gone to the lav and he moved it so I could get back to my seat, and yes, I know there is only a hole in the top
[post="193937"][/post]​

Hope you washed your hands before touching the door to exist, as many people touch that lav door. B)
 

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