AA's Seasonal Widebody Reduction compared to DL, UA

[eolesen]

Sure. I'll admit it. AA is abusing their market position by drawing down capacity in markets they dominate.

What's funny about the nitpicking is that DL did the exact same thing.

JFK-LAX, and MSP-LAX are down by 1 widebody departure, and DTW is down by 2.

But hey, at least DL's employees get profit sharing.

 

[N628AU]

Will you admit that DL used to run almost exclusively wide bodies on ATL-MCO from 767s to L1011s to 777s and MD11s and it is down to 1 or 2 767s a day? It's not even all 757 anymore.

 

[WorldTraveler]

I sure will. DL is flying those widebodies on int'l routes now.

No one said that AA did or did not do the right thing... just that they reduced capacity in a market where they are the dominant carrier.

 

[jcw]

great now that multiple people have said there is one less wide body on the LAX - MIA route - what is the next beef with AA?

 

[WorldTraveler]

who said it was a beef? certainly not me.

 

[jcw]

Are you the moderator of the board now- what is the next axe you want to grind on AA?

 

[WorldTraveler]

where did you come up with that?

don't post when under the influence of eggnog.

I'm not moderating anything and I have no axes - ground or in the garage.

 

[jcw]

really - should we take a poll on that - maybe as a new years resolution - let's see how long you can go without trashing AA

 

[WorldTraveler]

and the problem with your assessment is that I never trashed AA on this subject. I simply asked people to agree that AA has indeed cut widebody frequencies and overall capacity in a market where they are the dominant carrier.

there is nothing "trashy" about that kind of action in the free market system..

 

[eolesen]

AA has indeed cut widebody frequencies and overall capacity in a market where they are the dominant carrier.

there is nothing "trashy" about that kind of action in the free market system..

Nope. The only thing "trashy" about it is you making a huge issue out of it, especially when it's obvious that DL is doing the exact same thing at the exact same time in two markets where they are the dominant carrier.

And no, they didn't shift all that widebody capacity to international markets. Look at the first page, and you'll see widebody departures are down, presumably to also support maintenance lines in the off-season.

 

[Kev3188]

and the problem with your assessment is that I never trashed AA on this subject.

"On this subject" being key...

 

[WorldTraveler]

I have never said that DL or any other carrier doesn't park some widebody capacity during the off-peak period.

The only issue here is that a whole lot of people have a hard time acknowledging that the practice is done for economic, not operational issues.

AA, DL, and the rest of the lot fly when they can make money.

There is nothing wrong with AA reducing capacity in key markets but let's also note that doing so in LAX-MIA is counter to their MIA domestic trend for the same period.

 

[jcw]

I have never said that DL or any other carrier doesn't park some widebody capacity during the off-peak period.

The only issue here is that a whole lot of people have a hard time acknowledging that the practice is done for economic, not operational issues.

AA, DL, and the rest of the lot fly when they can make money.

There is nothing wrong with AA reducing capacity in key markets but let's also note that doing so in LAX-MIA is counter to their MIA domestic trend for the same period.

 
Once again just about everyone has acknowledge the one reduction in flying between LAX and MIA - it's only you who keeps pounding on saying people are not acknowledging it
 
seriously what don't you understand - is it that we have now shown DL took more wide bodies out of domestic routes than AA and your having difficulty with that? 
 
Can you say axe grinding?

 

[WorldTraveler]

here's an interesting quote from E about widebody and 3 class flying.

notably, the tables have turned from what he said. see post 23

http://www.airlineforums.com/topic/53024-767-gone-bos-lax/page-2

 

[AirLUVer]

I have never said that DL or any other carrier doesn't park some widebody capacity during the off-peak period.The only issue here is that a whole lot of people have a hard time acknowledging that the practice is done for economic, not operational issues.AA, DL, and the rest of the lot fly when they can make money.There is nothing wrong with AA reducing capacity in key markets but let's also note that doing so in LAX-MIA is counter to their MIA domestic trend for the same period.

To which I have already explained that it is due to the movement of two checks to the Miami base which require airplanes to sit for extended periods of time.

One of which again is the I-check and the second is the B-check.