A Good Move By Delta
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Theres nothing wrong with being overweight, but if you are actually so large that its unsafe then its time to go. I've seen some who are one pretzel away from being morbidly obese.
Extensions on the jumpseat should not be happening. I'm not trying to bash larger people, but if people are too frail or too large to perform emergency procedures in a safe, quick manner then they need to go. I agree with USA330Boy, unpopular as it is. We can't ever change the perception of our profession from overpaid cocktail waitresses to qualified, trained safety professionals if there are no standards.
Extensions on the jumpseat should not be happening. I'm not trying to bash larger people, but if people are too frail or too large to perform emergency procedures in a safe, quick manner then they need to go. I agree with USA330Boy, unpopular as it is. We can't ever change the perception of our profession from overpaid cocktail waitresses to qualified, trained safety professionals if there are no standards.
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Those of us who care, spend $20 per shirt having them taken in.
UsAirboy:
I just buy Aviator shirts (remember those?) off the internet for around $14.00.. they're better made and you can't see through them.. 😀
UsAirboy:
I just buy Aviator shirts (remember those?) off the internet for around $14.00.. they're better made and you can't see through them.. 😀
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What ever happened to the "image day" that they used to have in the crew rooms? The ladies would get free makeovers from makeup experts... 🙄USAirBoyA330 said:
I think you're right! On a flight last week I was delivered several hip-checks to the shoulder by a particulary wide FA. It didn't really bother me, but the fact she never excused herself and was sort of grumpy made it stick in my mind. And I will never forget one male flight attendant that I used to see many times out of BOS.. wrinkly shirt, messy hair, and his belly tugging apart the bottom buttons..you can't help but notice these things..USAirBoyA330 said:
These stories remind me of a lady I had the pleasure of flying with for a whole month. Our female flight attendants had a jacket that could be worn with or without a blouse underneath. She never wore anything and I do mean anything underneath. She was very goodlooking and the Lord blessed her with some ample assets. When we were working the beverage cart I would hold my breath everytime she leaned over to get something from one of the bottom drawers just knowing that eventually those buttons would give. 
Well, they never did and before I knew it our month together was over. But she sure did get the looks from the fellows. That uniform piece is no longer an option. Those were good times. 😀
Well, they never did and before I knew it our month together was over. But she sure did get the looks from the fellows. That uniform piece is no longer an option. Those were good times. 😀What about a very slow integration of a new uniform for FAs, that is classy, modern, and professional but would not clash with the current uniform worn by the CSA/Rs etc. Since there are certainly inventory of uniforms that should not be wasted, I would recommend that the new uniform should apply for only Mainline FA's and not express. I would be a strong way to differentiate the ML FA group, save on implementation costs, yet still respect the Express FAs profession.
Granted All of this does cost, and we do not have the money to implement this right now, and there are also cost disadvantages to maintaining supplies of two uniforms, however, if we do contract with the designer/supplier for these regaring the implementation of new CSA/R, express uniforms im sure some of these costs could be avoided.
Just for Fun....
Does anyone have any Ideas for what the new uniform could be.
I really like the new BA uniform (sharp)
Granted All of this does cost, and we do not have the money to implement this right now, and there are also cost disadvantages to maintaining supplies of two uniforms, however, if we do contract with the designer/supplier for these regaring the implementation of new CSA/R, express uniforms im sure some of these costs could be avoided.
Just for Fun....
Does anyone have any Ideas for what the new uniform could be.
I really like the new BA uniform (sharp)
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aj- Exactly. New uniform for mainline, Express can stick with what they've got (and be asked to actually wear it). In fact, most airlines do have different uniforms for thier Express, Eagles, Connections, whatever... in some cases its contractual.
Here's an idea stolen from a friend. I can't describe it as well as he drew it one night after a couple of bottles of wine, but I'll attempt to...
F/A- White shirt. Navy (but more closely resembling the aircraft) Thick Red and White stripes around the sleeve (like on the livery). Blazer is high cut with four smaller buttons (still silver). Men have ties, women have option of scarf (open collar) or tie tab (closed) that are silky material and gray/dark gray striped like the interior seats but diagnol. Same wings, also silver name tag underneath with first name only (in US-style lettering), the flag logo on one side and the Star Alliance logo on the other (this tag could also have a star for every five years of service, or language or whatever). Suit vests are available as well as a short sleeve dress (stripes are at the end of the sleeves.) Aprons are navy/blue vertical striped (think of the old snack boxes, makes ya look skinnier. The suits are also faintly striped if you look at them up close)
C/S- Same style suit and dress but gray and with a light blue/teal shirt (think of the Envoy Class colour). Same tie/scarf options... no stripes or wings. There was gray cardigans too of a thicker material that could also be worn by F/As but only onboard.
SARs/Agents in stations that also do ramp- Gray pants, navy polo.
I'm not sure if I did it justice, but you've got the general idea. He went into the symbolism behind it all too (crew looks like the plane so is immediatly identifiable, but also symbolizes America, CS looks like the interiors, the tie is the unifying factor that everyone wears- it was all very pretty... particularly after the wine and all 🙂 ). I'll have to call said friend and see if I got it right.
Another benefit was that its not that big of a change per se, scarves and ties could be distributed in crewrooms and the rest phased in within a year or so while still using old pieces. Stock of the old uniforms could go to the ever-revolving door of Express employees and carriers, while newly ordered items for mainline would be the new items. I would bet that most employees would immediatly order the new uniform as the old ones are so shameful (except for maybe Gladys, the cat ladies, and those certain male flight attendants who "overcompensate" by dressing sloppily- red/navy tie)
I always wondered why they didnt do something like that when they changed over to Cintas. If they were changing providers anyway why not update it a bit (and I dont mean make them six times bigger).
I hope if US overcomes its current crises and does in fact decide to stop pouting, pick a goal, compete, and be an airline, that it brings its front line team uniforms into at least the late 80s. 🙄
Here's an idea stolen from a friend. I can't describe it as well as he drew it one night after a couple of bottles of wine, but I'll attempt to...
F/A- White shirt. Navy (but more closely resembling the aircraft) Thick Red and White stripes around the sleeve (like on the livery). Blazer is high cut with four smaller buttons (still silver). Men have ties, women have option of scarf (open collar) or tie tab (closed) that are silky material and gray/dark gray striped like the interior seats but diagnol. Same wings, also silver name tag underneath with first name only (in US-style lettering), the flag logo on one side and the Star Alliance logo on the other (this tag could also have a star for every five years of service, or language or whatever). Suit vests are available as well as a short sleeve dress (stripes are at the end of the sleeves.) Aprons are navy/blue vertical striped (think of the old snack boxes, makes ya look skinnier. The suits are also faintly striped if you look at them up close)
C/S- Same style suit and dress but gray and with a light blue/teal shirt (think of the Envoy Class colour). Same tie/scarf options... no stripes or wings. There was gray cardigans too of a thicker material that could also be worn by F/As but only onboard.
SARs/Agents in stations that also do ramp- Gray pants, navy polo.
I'm not sure if I did it justice, but you've got the general idea. He went into the symbolism behind it all too (crew looks like the plane so is immediatly identifiable, but also symbolizes America, CS looks like the interiors, the tie is the unifying factor that everyone wears- it was all very pretty... particularly after the wine and all 🙂 ). I'll have to call said friend and see if I got it right.
Another benefit was that its not that big of a change per se, scarves and ties could be distributed in crewrooms and the rest phased in within a year or so while still using old pieces. Stock of the old uniforms could go to the ever-revolving door of Express employees and carriers, while newly ordered items for mainline would be the new items. I would bet that most employees would immediatly order the new uniform as the old ones are so shameful (except for maybe Gladys, the cat ladies, and those certain male flight attendants who "overcompensate" by dressing sloppily- red/navy tie)
I always wondered why they didnt do something like that when they changed over to Cintas. If they were changing providers anyway why not update it a bit (and I dont mean make them six times bigger).
I hope if US overcomes its current crises and does in fact decide to stop pouting, pick a goal, compete, and be an airline, that it brings its front line team uniforms into at least the late 80s. 🙄
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This has been the funniest thread on any of these boards for a long, long time.
FWIW I always hated the BA hats (very frumpy) -- do they still have those? Virgin Red is also unflattering unless you're a goddess. I always liked the Iberia uniforms -- very classy for both the guys and gals. Everyone used to be in uniform even if they worked in a city office or call center.
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FWIW I always hated the BA hats (very frumpy) -- do they still have those? Virgin Red is also unflattering unless you're a goddess. I always liked the Iberia uniforms -- very classy for both the guys and gals. Everyone used to be in uniform even if they worked in a city office or call center.
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You guys are great. These comments bring back so many memories!
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I think some of you should produce a 'reality show' for Bravo or one of those cable channels called 'Galley Chat' with Light Years as the hostess.
Perhaps do F/A makeovers; recount inspiring or humurous episodes in the air; provide a dating service with pax (you know, Joe Millionaire is on the plane, find him); explain the strange uniform 'hanky code' among straight male F/A's, etc. I guess videocams carried by pax would not be available. Oh, well.
Otherwise, a radio show hosted by Light Years would be good. Maybe AFA will hire Light Years to host a weekly streaming show on their website.
Perhaps do F/A makeovers; recount inspiring or humurous episodes in the air; provide a dating service with pax (you know, Joe Millionaire is on the plane, find him); explain the strange uniform 'hanky code' among straight male F/A's, etc. I guess videocams carried by pax would not be available. Oh, well.
Otherwise, a radio show hosted by Light Years would be good. Maybe AFA will hire Light Years to host a weekly streaming show on their website.
There is a book out called "Around the World in a Bad, Bad Mood", written by a F/A who i think my work for United and has produced her own one-woman musical and is starring in it. It is very funny. I read it, signed it, passed it on and am hoping within a year to get it back and see how many have read it.
The one thing I remember is how she stated "we make a living of going up and down the aisled on the A/C THANKING PEOPLE FOR THEIR TRASH:!!! hOW TRUE> :blink:
I agree, we need Light Years to do Something For Us.
At least we have LT here to provide Humor in the face of adversity. 😀
The one thing I remember is how she stated "we make a living of going up and down the aisled on the A/C THANKING PEOPLE FOR THEIR TRASH:!!! hOW TRUE> :blink:
I agree, we need Light Years to do Something For Us.
At least we have LT here to provide Humor in the face of adversity. 😀
:huh: I can remember the first time I flew on a Dash-8 from PIT to CLE, about 4 years ago. I wish I remembered which express carrier it was. However, the F/A was so large she had trouble going up the steps. It wasn't a full flight and we were asked to move to the seats behind the wing. When she did the drink service, she didn't go past the wing, handed it to us and we passed it back. That seriously frightened me... unfortunately though it was just the first of many similar experiences.Light Years said:
We do have some sort of weight check, but I don't know how strickt they are. It use to be that we had to comfortabley get through a F-100 window. Now I believe it is a 737 window. I don't have that problem, so I guess I haven't paid too much attention. We all have a tendancy to put on extra layers as we age, but in this industry I would think it could be a hassle.
I come home many times with bruises all over my legs from the paxs kicking me with their legs and feet in the aisles . Can you imagine what one must look like if their hips are hitting the aisle armrests or seats and they sache up and down???
Oops....probably not too bad...I forgot...It is a one(1) beverage service than JUMPSEAT HERE I COME 😛
I come home many times with bruises all over my legs from the paxs kicking me with their legs and feet in the aisles . Can you imagine what one must look like if their hips are hitting the aisle armrests or seats and they sache up and down???
Oops....probably not too bad...I forgot...It is a one(1) beverage service than JUMPSEAT HERE I COME 😛
