777 engine fails, diverts to JFK

[hp_fa]

Princess, are there any ETOPS implications at this point with two failures so close to one another, or is the in-service reliability so good the two incidents have no real bearing on the issue?

 

[PRINCESS KIDAGAKASH]

Princess, are there any ETOPS implications at this point with two failures so close to one another, or is the in-service reliability so good the two incidents have no real bearing on the issue?

Probably not. If the FAA still allows NWA to fly with all the inflight shutdowns they are having, I doubt seriously if they will pull the Trent's ETOPS certification.

 

[IORFA]

Jim,

66-67 DFW-ORD-DFW, isn't there for the "senior" ladies in DFW. The flight is insurance for the evening LHR-DEL departures out of ORD. The plane would otherwise sit in DFW, so they use it. Former Moderator, said at one time, that it was used around 30% of the time on ORD-LHR, instead of going back to DFW.

 

[s80dude]

Jim,

66-67 DFW-ORD-DFW, isn't there for the "senior" ladies in DFW. The flight is insurance for the evening LHR-DEL departures out of ORD. The plane would otherwise sit in DFW, so they use it. Former Moderator, said at one time, that it was used around 30% of the time on ORD-LHR, instead of going back to DFW.

RES indicates 66/67 is cancelled on DFW/ORD/DFW because of tail 7BT out of service in LHR.

 

[jimntx]

Jim,

66-67 DFW-ORD-DFW, isn't there for the "senior" ladies in DFW. The flight is insurance for the evening LHR-DEL departures out of ORD. The plane would otherwise sit in DFW, so they use it. Former Moderator, said at one time, that it was used around 30% of the time on ORD-LHR, instead of going back to DFW.

Well, I know that when I used to attend base meetings at DFW the PRIMARY topic of discussion each month was either getting the domestic 777 flying back from MIA/LAX/whoever had it that month or keeping the others from getting it.

And, are you saying that there is a change of equipment at ORD everyday? 66 is listed in RES as DFW-ORD and ORD-LHR--i.e., a continuation. And, if it doesn't operate DFW-ORD, what a/c do they use for ORD-LHR? Unless, they just didn't bother to do the ORD-DFW the previous day on flight 67.

 

[IORFA]

I am saying that YES it is a different plane. Some days it is used for LHR or DEL. Other days, it turns around and goes back to DFW. It is used for insurance for the evening departures. I used to commute from DFW to ORD and DFW used to use the plane as well. I remember sitting in the B concourse waiting for the 777 and watching an F100 show up instead. They have enough 777's to run ORD's schedule, DFW-ORD-DFW 66 and 67, are continuation flights, just not always the same plane. Flights from PVG, NRT, LHR might have mechanicals or show up late. Thus the 777 from DFW is then used. Often when it is used, they either cancel or delay 67 back to DFW. So, if it doesn't fly up from DFW, nothing is cancelled. Flight 90, the morning flight to LHR from ORD is sometimes a continuation of the 6am flight from DFW. Currently I think it is a different flight number. In any event, the 6am DFW-ORD is/was never a 777. Even though it was the same flight number. Always a S-80. In the end, 66 and 67 from/to DFW aren't intended to continue to LHR, sometimes it does for operational needs.

 

[jimntx]

Thanks. I keep forgetting. I'm a flight attendant. I'm paid to be cute, not smart.

 

[Hackman]

Thanks. I keep forgetting. I'm a flight attendant. I'm paid to be cute, not smart.

I didn't think we had any cute F/A's left? Least wise not ones named Jim.

 

[eolesen]

Isn't all of the overhaul on the Trent outsourced? That would explain the shoddy workmanship.

 

[PlayTheOdds]

The RR "TRENT" is a good engine, but it still has some problems that will show up time to time as the engines mature...

Just another "Normal" In-flight Engine Shutdown. No big deal, it happens all the time. You guys are killin' me.

Hey Princess why don't you give Burt Rutan a call and let him have a crack at your problem before you crash one of your glitchy experimentally powered 777's into someones house or pencil-whip the ETOPS PDC and send one to the bottom of the ocean?

Isn't all of the overhaul on the Trent outsourced? That would explain the shoddy workmanship.

Be nice Former ModerAAtor for it is one of Ken's infamous AMT's that he is so proud of that is performing the work at hand. AMT's do not perform "shoddy" workmanship, only Scabs do with A&P Certificates.

 

[PRINCESS KIDAGAKASH]

Just another "Normal" In-flight Engine Shutdown. No big deal, it happens all the time. You guys are killin' me.

Hey Princess why don't you give Burt Rutan a call and let him have a crack at your problem before you crash one of your glitchy experimentally powered 777's into someones house or pencil-whip the ETOPS PDC and send one to the bottom of the ocean?
Be nice Former ModerAAtor for it is one of Ken's infamous AMT's that he is so proud of that is performing the work at hand. AMT's do not perform "shoddy" workmanship, only Scabs do with A&P Certificates.

Scabby, How's that double wide trailer renovation coming? Did you buy another Yugo with that scab money or did you blow it all on booze,drugs, and computer porn? Hope you have enough money left over for lawyers for your FAA-NTSB hearings.

 

[Hackman]

Just another "Normal" In-flight Engine Shutdown. No big deal, it happens all the time. You guys are killin' me.

Hey Princess why don't you give Burt Rutan a call and let him have a crack at your problem before you crash one of your glitchy experimentally powered 777's into someones house or pencil-whip the ETOPS PDC and send one to the bottom of the ocean?
Be nice Former ModerAAtor for it is one of Ken's infamous AMT's that he is so proud of that is performing the work at hand. AMT's do not perform "shoddy" workmanship, only Scabs do with A&P Certificates.

Well superSCAB, I'll bet the 777 engine shutdown wasn't because of this little scab SNAFU that your scab buddies in DTW caused at Scab Air:

A/C 6308 left Dtw after overnight 1/4 A check. #2 engine lost all oil. Shut down and dumped fuel and landed in MSP. I believe this happened on Thursday July 27th.

MAG PLUG #3 BEARING SITTING IN REVERSER COWL.


MAG PLUG HOUSING, FOUND O-RING MISSING ON SAFETY VALVE

Wanna compare the amount of Scab Air's IFSD and emergency landings vs. AA's? Naw, I didn't think so.... :unsure: :unsure: :unsure:

 

[Hopeful]

Well superSCAB, I'll bet the 777 engine shutdown wasn't because of this little scab SNAFU that your scab buddies in DTW caused at Scab Air:

A/C 6308 left Dtw after overnight 1/4 A check. #2 engine lost all oil. Shut down and dumped fuel and landed in MSP. I believe this happened on Thursday July 27th.

MAG PLUG #3 BEARING SITTING IN REVERSER COWL.
MAG PLUG HOUSING, FOUND O-RING MISSING ON SAFETY VALVE

Wanna compare the amount of Scab Air's IFSD and emergency landings vs. AA's? Naw, I didn't think so.... :unsure: :unsure: :unsure:

Whoa,,,hold on their Hackman!
You are speaking mechanic lingo here using terms like "#3 Bearing" and "MAG PLUG HOUSING"!

How can you expect SCAB MASTER PTO to understand this?

 

[PlayTheOdds]

Well superSCAB, I'll bet the 777 engine shutdown wasn't because of this little scab SNAFU that your scab buddies in DTW caused at Scab Air:...

Probably not Hackman but the question is what was the problem? I can see the sign off now: "Could not duplicate on ground A/C OK for service."

 

[Ken MacTiernan]

"Be nice Former ModerAAtor for it is one of Ken's infamous AMT's that he is so proud of that is performing the work at hand. AMT's do not perform "shoddy" workmanship, only Scabs do with A&P Certificates."

Well, SCAB, you continue to show your ignorance.

You still can not read and comprehend. No wonder SCABS can not understand the MM. I would explain to you once again the effects of outsourcing maintenance. But why disturb your ignorant bliss.