5 U.S. Carriers File for Flights to Haneda

[SparrowHawk]

Wasn't it Mr Wolf who said "There is no plan B"after the merger with UA went south?

IMO There wasn't a "Plan B" then and there isn't one now.

 

[a320av8r]

Wasn't it Mr Wolf who said "There is no plan B"after the merger with UA went south?

IMO There wasn't a "Plan B" then and there isn't one now.

That was Raquish Gangwal

 

[SparrowHawk]

That was Raquish Gangwal

I sit corrected! You are absolutely right.

Must be my age, I thought for sure they asked Wolf that question too. Is it possible they were both asked and responded the same?

 

[BoeingBoy]

I don't think it really matters which of the two said it - Gangwal was Wolf's right hand man so both would know if there were a plan B or not. I do believe at least Wolf had his personal plan B - bail before bankruptcy and collect his 30 year lump sum pension and other goodies.

 

[SparrowHawk]

I don't think it really matters which of the two said it - Gangwal was Wolf's right hand man so both would know if there were a plan B or not. I do believe at least Wolf had his personal plan B - bail before bankruptcy and collect his 30 year lump sum pension and other goodies.

Jim,

You could make book on it. I know someone who knows Mr Wolf well and that person told me the following "Mr Wolf never did anything that did not benefit him directly" His whole agenda was to spruce up US Airways and sell/merge it, collect a ton of dough on the options and hit the road.

He was certainly more mercenary than the current crew of frat boys attempting to run an airline. He was also smarter which really isn't saying a whole lot.

 

[SegmentKing]

didn't he make enough money at United?

 

[damajagua]

That's just it... it would be good for US Airways. It wouldn't necessarily be good for any other carrier to consolidate with US, knowing that US has incredibly weak revenue generating hubs.

Let's just all make sure we have a strong plan "B"....

Could not agree with you more here. Good luck to all the US Airways employees......but am sorry
US Airways would bring nothing that is desirable to any of the legacy carriers that you guys would like to merge. Any merger with US Airways would be a disaster.

 

[Travel Is My Life]

Everyone blasted them for applying to Beijing, and now everyone is blasting them for not applying for Haneda....sigh....

Maybe, just maybe, they have a strategy, which is expanding where they can be profitable while the economy is still down, and looking as Asian expansion when the can risk running at a loss for several years, while they build brand indentity on a new continent. They are already trying to push into South America....why stretch themselves thin, while all airlines are losing money. Better to do something right, than not at all. Establish South America (Rio, Sao Paulo, Buenos, Bogota, Lima) before going to Asia.

Could it be, somebody on here actually can post something thats not riddled with a hatred of the airline??

As many of even the naysayers have said, many of those in the corporate office at US are numbers people and I'm sure they figured out where they can make money and where they cant. Where they can spend the money and where they cant. etc. etc. I'm sure they have very valid reasons for not applying for this service.

 

[SparrowHawk]

Where they can spend the money and where they cant. etc. etc. I'm sure they have very valid reasons for not applying for this service.

Is that the same kind of valid decision making that led to the debacle known as SHARES?

Is that the same kind of valid decision making that led to Parjers anti-customer statement?

Enlighten us with how all of the Scary talent on the Rio Salada has created a better airline? An airline that has publically stated that the don't have to be the best, just "Good Enough". What an inspiring leader. Just imagine the marketing slogans.

Fly US, the Many, the Forelorn, the Mediocre

US Airways, daring to be great 26.7% of the time

Fly US, where noth enough is good enough

 

[DCaf]

Could not agree with you more here. Good luck to all the US Airways employees......but am sorry
US Airways would bring nothing that is desirable to any of the legacy carriers that you guys would like to merge. Any merger with US Airways would be a disaster.

A well-developed eastern route system is what US would bring to a merger. 3 profitable connecting hubs in the area is something not every legacy has. But, until the pilot seniority issue is resolved, if ever, a merger with US would be difficult at best, and a disaster at worst.

 

[tadjr]

The lastest AboutUS answers this.....

Q. A few airlines applied for the new slots at Tokyo Haneda
(HND) airport. Why didn’t US Airways?
A. In order to make service to Tokyo successful, we need both
local passengers traveling from our hubs and other parts of the
U.S. to Tokyo as well as connecting passenger traveling beyond
Tokyo to other Asian destinations on our Star Alliance partners.
Star Alliance connections beyond Japan are better achieved
out of Tokyo Narita (NRT) not HND. We have determined that
demand from our hubs to Tokyo is insufficient to support a
nonstop flight without significant connections beyond Tokyo.


If they know it isnt going to be a worthwhile investment, sounds prudent to just concentrate on Narita (fingers crossed) and not go somewhere just because we need another dot on the map.