2012 Schedule Changes

[eolesen]

It's been a while since Mark or anyone else has posted schedule add/deletes... Here's some of what's happened in the past couple weeks:

1) JFK-BUD (Budapest, 1x 763) now pulled from future schedules, given Malev's collapse. It was supposed to return in June, along with ORD-HEL (still returning on 14/15Jun 1x 763)

2) JFK-YHZ (Halifax, 2x ERD on Eagle) goes away on 03Apr

3) BDL-SJU (1x 738) gets dropped on 02Apr --- this is the last of the non-hub flights between SJU and the mainland...

4) MIA-BCN starts up 1x 763 on 02Apr as a 5x service, going daily for the summer. IB is dropping the route.

5) JFK-BCN returns as 1x 763 on 14Jun -- the second flight which operated only 4x weekly is not returning

 

[Veritas]

1) JFK-BUD (Budapest, 1x 763) now pulled from future schedules, given Malev's collapse. It was supposed to return in June...

Announced simultaneously with that of a fourth frequency between DFW and LHR effective June 14.

 

[fltguymk]

Announced simultaneously with that of a fourth frequency between DFW and LHR effective June 14.

JFK BCN 1X daily is operating now.. Second daily flight not returning this Summer.

 

[FWAAA]

AA restores fifth daily JFK-LHR on April 3 with 777, according to AirlineRoute.net:

http://airlineroute.net/2012/01/06/aa-lhr-s12/

That will total 13 daily frequencies, including BA.

 

[MCI transplant]

<_< ------- Rumor down South is that Eagle to pull flights out of the Carb. from SJU.

 

[commavia]

<_< ------- Rumor down South is that Eagle to pull flights out of the Carb. from SJU.

Makes sense - the hub opened in 1986 to try and get around Eastern's MIA hub and into the Caribbean basin, but now that AA handily dominates MIA, there is no longer a need for SJU. Return the rickety ATRs to the lessors and focus on MIA.

Of the destinations left that Eagle still flies to out of SJU, there are only four that don't currently have nonstop service to MIA, and of those, only two don't have a runway long enough to support a nonstop flight to MIA.

I think a good SJU operation would be their current MIA/JFK/DFW/ORD schedule, plus keeping around the high-yielding SJU-CCS flights a maybe 1-2 daily 737s SJU-SDQ (as it is a decent size local market). Beyond that, add a few 737s a week from MIA to FDF, PTP, and maybe an additional few frequencies to STI, PUJ, GND, UVF, SKB, ANU, etc.

 

[BartlettAve]

Makes sense - the hub opened in 1986 to try and get around Eastern's MIA hub and into the Caribbean basin, but now that AA handily dominates MIA, there is no longer a need for SJU. Return the rickety ATRs to the lessors and focus on MIA.

Of the destinations left that Eagle still flies to out of SJU, there are only four that don't currently have nonstop service to MIA, and of those, only two don't have a runway long enough to support a nonstop flight to MIA.

I think a good SJU operation would be their current MIA/JFK/DFW/ORD schedule, plus keeping around the high-yielding SJU-CCS flights a maybe 1-2 daily 737s SJU-SDQ (as it is a decent size local market). Beyond that, add a few 737s a week from MIA to FDF, PTP, and maybe an additional few frequencies to STI, PUJ, GND, UVF, SKB, ANU, etc.

Rumor up north is that JetBlue is going to throw some money at CapeAir to operate larger aircraft in JetBlue colors in and out of SJU.

 

[AAviator]

What happened to MIA-MAO?

With AS dropping MIA-SEA, it would be nice to see at least a 738 on the route.

 

[MCI transplant]

Rumor up north is that JetBlue is going to throw some money at CapeAir to operate larger aircraft in JetBlue colors in and out of SJU.

<_< ------ That's strange, because I heard AA has made inquiries about a possible code share with CapeAir.

 

[kirkpatrick]

1) JFK-BUD (Budapest, 1x 763) now pulled from future schedules, given Malev's collapse.

This doesn't make sense to me. It seems with Malev gone and no one else in the market we'd do well there.

MK

 

[Maark767]

This doesn't make sense to me. It seems with Malev gone and no one else in the market we'd do well there.

MK

We had a codeshare deal with Malev. We fed them to BUD and pax connected from there. No Malev, no feed. Now like so many other connections we use LHR as our connecting hub to many european cities...... Good old LHR !!! Easier to connect pax that way than to go nonstop...... The American way!!!

 

[eolesen]

This doesn't make sense to me. It seems with Malev gone and no one else in the market we'd do well there.

As mentioned, Malev was feeding AA's flight -- they haven't operated their own metal to North America since 2008 or 2009, and wasn't currently operating anything larger than a B738.

 

[kirkpatrick]

As mentioned, Malev was feeding AA's flight -- they haven't operated their own metal to North America since 2008 or 2009

That makes more sense now. I hadn't realized they weren't doing JFK-BUD. I recall my inlaws flying them to BUD only a few years ago.

MK

 

[AAviator]

What happened to MIA-MAO?

With AS dropping MIA-SEA, it would be nice to see at least a 738 on the route.

Both start June 14.

MIA-SEA will be a 757, and MIA Manaus will be a 738.

Cool.