I'm not really sure how to make this any more clear.
a) I'm not saying that U should throw away what it has and become the new westpac.
B) I'm not saying that U should try to copy AWA but rather AWA is a decent model for a HCC trying to become a LCC rather than re-starting unprofitable routes.
c) I agree that systemwide CASM is a terrible measure and have mentioned that over and over. I was just following the suit of this thread when that was pulled in for comparison purposes.
d) True, WN is in the west, but WN, FL, B6, and NK are strong in the NE to FLA markets. I'd rather have one against me than all four.
e) The secret to battling WN is that they publish low fares but only their n/s flights enjoy much availability at the lowest levels. Check and market that has a combination of n/s and cnx flights and see for yourself. The n/s's will have the low fare available, but more times than not, the cnx's will be higher fares.
f) My whole point is that U is missing a huge number of markets due to their structure. In looking at HP and their hubs only in the west (since their "hub" at CMH has been dismantled), if you notice...their hubs are still located between the bulk of the largest cities in the west and all of the east/midwest. Eastern US population is more spread out and does not hug the coast as much as the west. With hubs fairly close to the coast at CLT/PHL and PIT which is still east of several of the large markets, U cannot get as much east coast feed to the west. And they are not trying, either.
They are stuck in the notion that NE-FLA is the breadwinner b/c they cannot get past the era that WN, JB, FL, and NK did not exist. Think of adding the west as diversification. You wouldn't buy only tech stocks, would you? Why only try flying in the east which is plummeting rapidly as a profitable venture for HCCs? U had purchased much tech stock in the past b/c it was the strong one but those stocks have since crashed. So why do we keep revisiting that we should buy tech stocks again? B/c nobody seems to be able to get past the fact that this is a different era and that is not where the opportunity is.
As far as COS goes...just an example...There are many cities in the west and what is the point of renaming them all every time?
So back to the thread...if the adding the midwest/west coast to the network is apparently such a terrible idea (as was a transcon hub out of JFK, as was taking on DL directly out of ATL, as was flying a silly triangle between HOU-DAL-SAT) ...what is the best NEW idea that everybody can think of. I challenge that we get past NE-FLA and building a vast feeder network to mini-markets as that is what U has done in the past with no success.
a) I'm not saying that U should throw away what it has and become the new westpac.
B) I'm not saying that U should try to copy AWA but rather AWA is a decent model for a HCC trying to become a LCC rather than re-starting unprofitable routes.
c) I agree that systemwide CASM is a terrible measure and have mentioned that over and over. I was just following the suit of this thread when that was pulled in for comparison purposes.
d) True, WN is in the west, but WN, FL, B6, and NK are strong in the NE to FLA markets. I'd rather have one against me than all four.
e) The secret to battling WN is that they publish low fares but only their n/s flights enjoy much availability at the lowest levels. Check and market that has a combination of n/s and cnx flights and see for yourself. The n/s's will have the low fare available, but more times than not, the cnx's will be higher fares.
f) My whole point is that U is missing a huge number of markets due to their structure. In looking at HP and their hubs only in the west (since their "hub" at CMH has been dismantled), if you notice...their hubs are still located between the bulk of the largest cities in the west and all of the east/midwest. Eastern US population is more spread out and does not hug the coast as much as the west. With hubs fairly close to the coast at CLT/PHL and PIT which is still east of several of the large markets, U cannot get as much east coast feed to the west. And they are not trying, either.
They are stuck in the notion that NE-FLA is the breadwinner b/c they cannot get past the era that WN, JB, FL, and NK did not exist. Think of adding the west as diversification. You wouldn't buy only tech stocks, would you? Why only try flying in the east which is plummeting rapidly as a profitable venture for HCCs? U had purchased much tech stock in the past b/c it was the strong one but those stocks have since crashed. So why do we keep revisiting that we should buy tech stocks again? B/c nobody seems to be able to get past the fact that this is a different era and that is not where the opportunity is.
As far as COS goes...just an example...There are many cities in the west and what is the point of renaming them all every time?
So back to the thread...if the adding the midwest/west coast to the network is apparently such a terrible idea (as was a transcon hub out of JFK, as was taking on DL directly out of ATL, as was flying a silly triangle between HOU-DAL-SAT) ...what is the best NEW idea that everybody can think of. I challenge that we get past NE-FLA and building a vast feeder network to mini-markets as that is what U has done in the past with no success.