Why Don't The Airlines Just Raise Fares?

So, when we last left off, we went through the basics of market pricing. Now, Bob, I know you already know this stuff, but I want to make sure that it's clear not only to you, but also to the others who are reading this thread.

As I said before, this chapter covers why a company would stay in a market, even at a loss. You, of course, already mentioned one before. You pointed out that a company would stay in a market at a loss in order to increase market share. So why would a company do this?

Simply put, the only reason to take a loss in a market as a means of gaining market share is to remove one or more players from the market. More importantly, you have to remove the players with lower costs than your business. Why?

The only reason to take a loss today is to make it up with profits tomorrow. This means that you have to raise the unit price to a profitable level for your business.

Recall from our last chapter that the market price is determined from the entry prices and the capacity of the lowest-cost players. (I'm mixing up the entry price and cost terms here, assuming that they're synonyms; naturally, they aren't always synonymous, though for the purposes of this chapter the effects are the same even when they're not synonymous terms.) This means that the only way to raise the market price is to get one or more of the lower-cost players out of the market.

In order to remove one of the lower-cost players, you have to either drain them of cash reserves (or convince them that you will), or saturate the capacity of the market somehow in a manner that prevents the lower-cost players from serving the market.

One instance of the first model is sometimes referred to as "predatory pricing." In the airline industry, this is where the established airline substantially drops fares and increases frequency. If it's the mid-90s, and you're American and you're only up against Vanguard in a couple of markets, you have much deeper pockets than they do. You have more routes that can subsidize the loss on these markets for a much longer time than little Vanguard can sustain.

A variation on the first model applies when you're not the highest-cost player. If you're willing to sell tickets at a price below the market price, but still profitably for you, you'll force the player above you to sell at a loss. Just as above, the goal is to remove the other player. This approach only works if you can add capacity inexpensively. Interestingly enough, pretty much any airline in the US can add capacity inexpensively. In fact, the union pay structures of the airlines all but demand an expanding airline, so you'll see this approach occur often.

The second model is what led to "fortress hubbing." By saturating the gate capacity at an airport, you prevent anyone else from gaining a foothold at that same airport. Selling seats at a loss in the short term in order to gain a fortress hub in the long term is a solid investment, provided you have the cash to support establishing this stronghold.

A third reason to take a loss today is an expectation of a changing supply or demand curve in the future.

Let's hit the supply curve first. Imagine that you're serving a market at a loss today, but if you could reduce your costs by 10% you'd be making a profit at exactly the same price. If you can figure out how to cut those costs by 10%, it's worthwhile to stay in the market. It's expensive to enter a new market (which would include a market that you left). If you believe that you'll reduce your costs soon enough that you lose less in the meantime than you would by exiting and re-entering the market, then it makes sense to stay in, even at a loss.

Similarly, if you're convinced that demand will rise soon enough to offset your current loss, and that your current loss is smaller than the cost of re-entering the market, it makes sense to stay in the market in the short term.

These models drove the legacy carriers from deregulation until today. Build fortress hubs in order to generate monopoly income on a set of routes, which would subsidize more competitive routes that would be sold roughly at cost. If a newcomer arrives, smother it or acquire it quickly. It worked well for a long time.

The model was far from perfect, though. In particular, while it's true that the demand curve is highly bimodal, the upper mode is especially sensitive to the economy. I did some analysis of that sensitivity. In particular, I compared the size of the upper mode to the change in the stock market (which is a good representative for the direction of the economy; a rapidly expanding economy produces a rapidly rising stock market, whereas a contracting economy produces a flat or somewhat dropping stock market). The two tracked so well that they almost looked like a single line on a line graph...if you shifted the size of the mode slightly to the left. In other words, they tracked perfectly, but the demand for business air travel lags the economic climate slightly.

This means that if you tune your business model to take advantage of the bimodal nature of the demand curve, you'll do well when the economy is expanding, and badly when the economy is stagnant or contracting. As long as you can survive the bad times, such a business model isn't inherently bad, but it takes some really solid business and money management to do it.

Of course, one option for such a bimodal-depenent airline would be to shrink when the economy is slow, and expand when the economy is hot. However, many factors preclude this approach:
  • Leases are typically long-term, and must be paid whether the item covered by the lease (e.g., gates, counter space, airplanes) are being used or not.
  • Union contracts dictate that layoffs occur from the bottom up, but the employees near the bottom are typically the best value. That is, since wages rise faster than productivity, the cheapest unit of productivity is near the bottom (not at the bottom, since new hires start out particularly unproductive). This can be countered somewhat with buyouts of people at the top, but this is of limited use for a number of reasons.
  • Ramping down can mean leaving one or more markets altogether, with the aforementioned re-entry costs later.
  • Laying off union employees should come with laying off non-union employees as well, if for no other reason than to prevent the company from becoming too top heavy. The problem is, if the mid-level jobs ebb and flow, where each ebb coincides with a bad economy, it will be exceptionally hard to find people willing to take the job. What's the point in taking a job where you'll be laid off just when it's hardest to find another? Without the added incentive of the seniority-protected union contracts, airline management jobs would be even less appealing than their unionized counterparts.
So, instead, it typically makes more sense to try to weather the storm with minimal capacity reductions, saving the airplane parking for more desperate times. In the meantime, yields drop, and losses mount.

Now, somewhere out there is Bob Owens, saying "But this proves nothing about the airlines' ability to raise fares!" And he's right. But it now gives us a good jumping off point for the discussion.

Since we have a bimodal market, we have to tackle this in two parts. Let's start with the business mode, and then we'll hit up the leisure mode.

Why can't we raise business fares? Well, first of all, it isn't 1999 anymore. The business mode is much smaller than it was in 1999. As we established in the previous two chapters, the market price is based on stack ranking the entry prices and capacities, and starting at the lowest price, going down the list until we meet the capacity.

But!!!! We also established that there is a significant cost associated with capacity reduction, which tends to lower the exit price to a point below the cost of providing the service.

But!!!!!! This means that there is a greater capacity than the simple market equilibrium would suggest is optimal, which lowers the market price still further!

In other words, the industry analysts are absolutely correct that there is too much capacity in the industry. What they should be saying is that there is too much business mode capacity in the industry.

And, as I mentioned earlier, the business mode was shrinking somewhat, even before the economic meltdown, because the difference in pricing between the two modes finally exceeded the cost to the businesses of either disguising themselves as leisure travelers or using a non-airline means of getting the job done (fractional jets, video teleconferencing, email...).

But let's say for a moment that AA decided to raise business fares by $10 apiece. What would happen? Well, for a segment of the market, there would be no change. They'd fly AA regardless. That's a shrinking segment, since businesses have gotten much more draconian in managing their travel budgets. No, most of AA's business customers would defect to other airlines...because they have to. The effect would be somewhat muted at DFW relative to other locations, but even there AA can't be too much more expensive than their connecting counterparts.

In other words, while it's true that business demand is relatively inelastic, you still have to price within the range of your competitors when there's excess capacity. Otherwise, the decrease revenue caused by a decrease in the number of passengers would exceed the additional revenue generated by the remaining passengers.

Besides, that's not how yield management does their job anyway. If you have enough fares in a market, you produce de facto fare increases by changing the relative size of the fare buckets. (If you remind me to, we can discuss how that's essentially the way DL's new fare strategy works.)

And what about the leisure mode? Well, as I mentioned before, each dollar in a leisure fare carries much more weight than its business counterpart. Not only is it typically felt by a multiplying factor (because leisure travelers tend to run in packs :)), but there is no multiplying factor in the substitute of a rental car and/or gasoline. That is, a rental car costs the same whether there's one person in it or four. And the incremental cost of gasoline to move four people around relative to only one is small.

So in the leisure market we have much greater elasticity. Raise those fares, and you wish you were raising the business fares instead! :shock:

OK, Bob...the ball's in your court.
 
mweiss... Thank you for your very detailed explanation. As you've probably read, I tried convincing Bob Owens of exactly these points. If I recall, you are a student. And that means you have the access and focus on exactly these issues, which you are illustrating well.

I will be particularly interested in your take on using revenue management to raise fares. I have been making a case for that based on the competitive landscape (its what Southwest has been doing for years, and the basis of America West's fare restructuring a couple years back).

I appreciate your informative posts, and wanted to say thanks.
 
funguy2 said:
If I recall, you are a student.
Was. I graduated in September, and am now back in the "real world." :)

And that means you have the access and focus on exactly these issues, which you are illustrating well.
It's still fresh in my mind, and I'm still working with one of my professors on a paper, covering the airline industry, which we intend to publish this year.

I will be particularly interested in your take on using revenue management to raise fares. I have been making a case for that based on the competitive landscape (its what Southwest has been doing for years, and the basis of America West's fare restructuring a couple years back).
You mean to raise average fares. I've talked about it before, but I'm happy to revisit it here.

I appreciate your informative posts, and wanted to say thanks.
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You're welcome. :) It's always nice to be appreciated.
 
Congrats on the completion of your formal studies (for now, anyways).

And, you are correct, I did mean average fares.
 
mweiss said:
Yes. And, incidentally, the Coca-Cola Company experimented with something very close to that, with vending machines that charged more when it was hot than when it was cold.

Its not really the same.

It would be illegal because discrimination based on race or gender is illegal.

Didnt I just say that?

So, let's continue.

In our last chapter,

Chapter? Exchange. This is a debate remember?

we established that, in a competitive market, the natural market price is at the entry point of Bravo.

Theoretically, according to your studies.
 
mweiss,Jan 11 2005, 06:26 PM]


The only reason to take a loss today is to make it up with profits tomorrow. This means that you have to raise the unit price to a profitable level for your business.

Or in this case you could take a loss today to bring your labor costs down. You forget the fact that labor is a big expense for the airlines and the the airlines have formed organizations where they collectively attack the issue of labor costs, in addition to the ATA they have Airconference or Aircon.org. Before they revamped the website they had a little history page that told how they were formed by the airline to combat rising labor costs. At a labor relations conference I ran into Robert Delucia, he came up to two representatives from Worldwide Aviation and introduced himself as "The guy who gives you all the information on how to scare away your unions".

Recall from our last chapter that the market price is determined from the entry prices and the capacity of the lowest-cost players. (I'm mixing up the entry price and cost terms here, assuming that they're synonyms; naturally, they aren't always synonymous, though for the purposes of this chapter the effects are the same even when they're not synonymous terms.) This means that the only way to raise the market price is to get one or more of the lower-cost players out of the market.

Assuming of course that they have sufficient capacity to effect the price.


In order to remove one of the lower-cost players, you have to either drain them of cash reserves (or convince them that you will), or saturate the capacity of the market somehow in a manner that prevents the lower-cost players from serving the market.

Draining them of cash, or buying them, have been the preferred methods in the past. But usually not right away.

You have more routes that can subsidize the loss on these markets for a much longer time than little Vanguard can sustain.

Not only more routes but International routes that tend to be more lucrative.

A variation on the first model applies when you're not the highest-cost player. If you're willing to sell tickets at a price below the market price, but still profitably for you, you'll force the player above you to sell at a loss. Just as above, the goal is to remove the other player. This approach only works if you can add capacity inexpensively. Interestingly enough, pretty much any airline in the US can add capacity inexpensively.

Inexpensively? You mean like the new $1 billion terminal at JFK that will add around three more gates when its done? Another thing is that one way to increase capacity is to go to larger aircraft, but that adds another whole new set of costs.

The second model is what led to "fortress hubbing." By saturating the gate capacity at an airport, you prevent anyone else from gaining a foothold at that same airport. Selling seats at a loss in the short term in order to gain a fortress hub in the long term is a solid investment, provided you have the cash to support establishing this stronghold.

Another reason to take a loss to reduce your labor costs.


Let's hit the supply curve first. Imagine that you're serving a market at a loss today, but if you could reduce your costs by 10% you'd be making a profit at exactly the same price. If you can figure out how to cut those costs by 10%, it's worthwhile to stay in the market. It's expensive to enter a new market (which would include a market that you left). If you believe that you'll reduce your costs soon enough that you lose less in the meantime than you would by exiting and re-entering the market, then it makes sense to stay in, even at a loss.

Yet another reason to take a loss to reduce labor costs.


These models drove the legacy carriers from deregulation until today. Build fortress hubs in order to generate monopoly income on a set of routes, which would subsidize more competitive routes that would be sold roughly at cost. If a newcomer arrives, smother it or acquire it quickly. It worked well for a long time.

The model was far from perfect, though. In particular, while it's true that the demand curve is highly bimodal, the upper mode is especially sensitive to the economy. I did some analysis of that sensitivity. In particular, I compared the size of the upper mode to the change in the stock market (which is a good representative for the direction of the economy; a rapidly expanding economy produces a rapidly rising stock market, whereas a contracting economy produces a flat or somewhat dropping stock market). The two tracked so well that they almost looked like a single line on a line graph...if you shifted the size of the mode slightly to the left. In other words, they tracked perfectly, but the demand for business air travel lags the economic climate slightly.

In the airlines we always said it was the first to go down and the last to come back up.

Of course, one option for such a bimodal-depenent airline would be to shrink when the economy is slow, and expand when the economy is hot. However, many factors preclude this approach:
  • Leases are typically long-term, and must be paid whether the item covered by the lease (e.g., gates, counter space, airplanes) are being used or not.

    Unless they go BK.[

    *]Union contracts dictate that layoffs occur from the bottom up, but the employees near the bottom are typically the best value. That is, since wages rise faster than productivity, the cheapest unit of productivity is near the bottom (not at the bottom, since new hires start out particularly unproductive). This can be countered somewhat with buyouts of people at the top, but this is of limited use for a number of reasons.

    That of course assumes that experience and skill have no value. It assumes that a new worker is as proficient as an experienced worker. For mechanics that is not the case. When you figure how much money an airline can lose from a cancelled flight having experienced mechanics pays for itself many, many times over. This is just one example of how what textbooks say will happen and what happens in reality are different.
  • Ramping down can mean leaving one or more markets altogether, with the aforementioned re-entry costs later.

    If they are re-enterred at all.
  • Laying off union employees should come with laying off non-union employees as well, if for no other reason than to prevent the company from becoming too top heavy.

    Well as the company was laying off union workers they were hiring management. I saw at least one worker who was either on, or just off probation go into management because if they didnt they were going to be laid off.

    The problem is, if the mid-level jobs ebb and flow, where each ebb coincides with a bad economy, it will be exceptionally hard to find people willing to take the job.

    It already is, because they dont want to pay.

    What's the point in taking a job where you'll be laid off just when it's hardest to find another?

    Whats the point of taking the job if you can make more on the floor?

    Without the added incentive of the seniority-protected union contracts, airline management jobs would be even less appealing than their unionized counterparts.
So, instead, it typically makes more sense to try to weather the storm with minimal capacity reductions, saving the airplane parking for more desperate times. In the meantime, yields drop, and losses mount.

Well let me tell you what we saw.

Prior to Sept 11 we saw that loads were down, way down. Just another tyopical down cycle, here come the layoffs. They did not come, instead the company kept on hiring! In fact our Local had grown to its largest size since 1999 when it was chartered. We couldnt figure it out. Why were they hiring when we knew that they would be laying off?

Sept 11 came, there was a layoff. Within six months they were all back and the company was hiring again!

By the way the total number of passengers between the four airplanes used on Sept could have all fit in just one of those airplanes, they were only 25% full.


In fact it seemed like the company was on a cash-burn! It was not up untill January of 2003 that the company said there was a problem.


Now, somewhere out there is Bob Owens, saying "But this proves nothing about the airlines' ability to raise fares!" And he's right. But it now gives us a good jumping off point for the discussion.

Since we have a bimodal market, we have to tackle this in two parts. Let's start with the business mode, and then we'll hit up the leisure mode.

Why can't we raise business fares? Well, first of all, it isn't 1999 anymore. The business mode is much smaller than it was in 1999. As we established in the previous two chapters, the market price is based on stack ranking the entry prices and capacities, and starting at the lowest price, going down the list until we meet the capacity.

But!!!! We also established that there is a significant cost associated with capacity reduction, which tends to lower the exit price to a point below the cost of providing the service.

But!!!!!! This means that there is a greater capacity than the simple market equilibrium would suggest is optimal, which lowers the market price still further!

In other words, the industry analysts are absolutely correct that there is too much capacity in the industry. What they should be saying is that there is too much business mode capacity in the industry.

And, as I mentioned earlier, the business mode was shrinking somewhat, even before the economic meltdown, because the difference in pricing between the two modes finally exceeded the cost to the businesses of either disguising themselves as leisure travelers or using a non-airline means of getting the job done (fractional jets, video teleconferencing, email...).

But let's say for a moment that AA decided to raise business fares by $10 apiece. What would happen? Well, for a segment of the market, there would be no change. They'd fly AA regardless. That's a shrinking segment, since businesses have gotten much more draconian in managing their travel budgets. No, most of AA's business customers would defect to other airlines...because they have to. The effect would be somewhat muted at DFW relative to other locations, but even there AA can't be too much more expensive than their connecting counterparts.

That is a big assumption, plus it assumes there are alternatives. Price is not the only reason why people fly, departure and arrival times, among other things, play a part too.


So in the leisure market we have much greater elasticity. Raise those fares, and you wish you were raising the business fares instead! :shock:
OK, Bob...the ball's in your court.

Well your whole arguement is based on textbook theories and broad assumptions.

You may have proven your knowledge of a theory but have not proven your case.

Assuming that the market is at its natural level, assuming that a large portion would seek alternate means with relatively small increases in price, assuming that costs can only be measured by dollars paid out and not by dollars saved, etc etc.

While some of the assumptions may not seem that critical you have to remember that in this industry its the tiny details that make the difference. I could relate my experiences as a mechanic to illustrate this but anyone other than a mechanic would be bored more than usual. Even most of them would get bored.

There are other factors which your theories dont even attempt to address such as politics and the broader economic impact that airlines have, or even the influence of creditors and other interested parties who may have interests in several carriers at the same time.


The fact is that while the theories are valid and knowledge of them critical to understanding the basics behind how businesses work they are a foundation, not the strucure on how a business is run. If they were then college professors would be running companies instead of teaching about it. The fact is while education is a crucial assett, the foundation if you will, experience and practice in the real world is what really counts. The learning does not stop the day you got your degree, in fact it has only begun.
 
we established that, in a competitive market, the natural market price is at the entry point of Bravo.

Theoretically, according to your studies.

Wrong again Bob. If you cared to attend business school, you would realize that most of these topics are taught using case studies of real events not theory. These theories have been played out in the airline business as well as many industries since the beginning of time.
 
Oneflyer said:
Wrong again Bob. If you cared to attend business school, you would realize that most of these topics are taught using case studies of real events not theory. These theories have been played out in the airline business as well as many industries since the beginning of time.
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Oh really? So those cases cover all situtations that have or ever will happen? Or, is it possible that, every once in a while, despite as you claim that this has been going on "since the beginning of time" a new and unique thing pops up?

I'd hope so otherwise there would never be a reason for a "new edition" textbook would there? Think of all the money Business students would save!!! Think of all the money the book companies would lose! Edition number 1 would be like the Bible.
 
Coming back to the headline of this topic. I happened to check out AA.com to see what kind of prices AA was selling DFW-LGA last minute tickets (leaving the 12th returning the 14th. To my surprise a roudtrip ticket was around $1200 including tax, not exact what I would call a cheap ticket. I then went to sabre to check the loads most of the flight, the particular flights I looked up were about 25% full, with most of the flights during those days about the same. What does this mean?

I would argue that an outdated revenue management system, a management team that is not willing to take the simplied pricing leap of faith, overcapacity, and a product that is not much different than its low cost competition are behind AA's revenue problem, not some conspiracy by upper management to destroy the "little man" union membership by refusing to raise fares.
 
Oneflyer said:
Coming back to the headline of this topic. I happened to check out AA.com to see what kind of prices AA was selling DFW-LGA last minute tickets (leaving the 12th returning the 14th. To my surprise a roudtrip ticket was around $1200 including tax, not exact what I would call a cheap ticket. I then went to sabre to check the loads most of the flight, the particular flights I looked up were about 25% full, with most of the flights during those days about the same. What does this mean?

I would argue that an outdated revenue management system, a management team that is not willing to take the simplied pricing leap of faith, overcapacity, and a product that is not much different than its low cost competition are behind AA's revenue problem, not some conspiracy by upper management to destroy the "little man" union membership by refusing to raise fares.
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So now you are saying that all our business school alumni dont know how to run a business?
 
Oh really? So those cases cover all situtations that have or ever will happen? Or, is it possible that, every once in a while, despite as you claim that this has been going on "since the beginning of time" a new and unique thing pops up?

The current situation that the airline industry faces is neither new or unique. Just because you haven't experienced it does mean its new or unique.
 
So now you are saying that all our business school alumni dont know how to run a business?

I never said there were not flaws in the system. I just said that what you thought the flaws were was wrong and that you didn't understand economics. Its a tough problem, one that probably doesn't have a sure fire solution. I'm not certain I'm right, I just state my assumptions.
 
Oneflyer said:
I never said there were not flaws in the system. I just said that what you thought the flaws were was wrong and that you didn't understand economics. Its a tough problem, one that probably doesn't have a sure fire solution. I'm not certain I'm right, I just state my assumptions.
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And one of your assumptions was that I did not understand economics right? After all how could you know what I understand and what I dont?
 
Bob Owens said:
Its not really the same.
No. And yet, it's close enough to have caused Coke to rethink deploying it. Imagine how much worse it is when you're talking about two adjacent seats on the same flight. Well, you don't have to, because you already know. I'm just agreeing with you.

Theoretically, according to your studies
Funny...you had a chance to rebut the explanation back then. You still do now. Be my guest.
 

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