Who wants a merger with AA?

[BoeingBoy]

Note about non-rev travel. I believe that at US Airways, when there are more non-revs than seats available on a flight, boarding passes are issued based on company seniority. Correct?

Incorrect. First, there are boarding priority codes - SA1, SA2....SA7 (I think that's the lowest but there may be SA8). Boarding is by priority code first, then DOH within each code. So a SA1 would always get a seat before a SA2 regardless of DOH. But if the next in line for a seat were both SA3, the one with the earlier DOH would get it.

Generally, active employees (and family traveling with them) have higher priority than retired (and families) - active employees are SA3 while retirees are SA4, active family members traveling without the employee are SA4 while retiree's family traveling without the retiree are SA5. Every active and retired employee gets vacation passes each year - SA1 - but the employees get 4 and retirees get 2.

Jim

 

[jimntx]

Interesting. At AA there are only 3 non-rev pass priorities--D1, D2, D3. Active and retired employees travel either on a D1 or D2. There is no differentiation as to current employment status. D3 is for friends and non-immediate family.

All employees traveling on company business are one of the A categories. Crew members deadheading to work a flight travel A1D--pos space, must travel, must be given a cabin seat. Deadheading back to base from working a flight, we travel A3--which is not guaranteed pos space. In fact, as a flight attendant I can be forced to deadhead on a jumpseat when A3.

Are there B, C, or E categories? I have no idea. I've never seen one in my vast career of 10 years.

 

[BoeingBoy]

US has the "company business" priorities also - never used one so don't know what the codes are (SP# maybe for space positive?). Scheduling books deadhead (what we call "must ride") under USCrew (or did).

Maybe part of the difference is that you have Eagle while US has lots of express carriers, so SA (space available) codes apply to their employees too. Don't remember off the top of my head, but SA6 might be wholly-owned employees/families, SA7 might be contract carrier employees/families.

US pre-merger actually went by DOH for non-rev - employees and retirees had the same priority and got seats in order of DOH. HP had the active ahead of retired and that's what we ended up with.

Jim

 

[Black Magic]

What is AA's non rev policy for parents?

 

[nycbusdriver]

Interesting. At AA there are only 3 non-rev pass priorities--D1, D2, D3. Active and retired employees travel either on a D1 or D2. There is no differentiation as to current employment status. D3 is for friends and non-immediate family.

All employees traveling on company business are one of the A categories. Crew members deadheading to work a flight travel A1D--pos space, must travel, must be given a cabin seat. Deadheading back to base from working a flight, we travel A3--which is not guaranteed pos space. In fact, as a flight attendant I can be forced to deadhead on a jumpseat when A3.

Are there B, C, or E categories? I have no idea. I've never seen one in my vast career of 10 years.

It's nice to hear that AA gives retirees the same priority as employees, all based on date of hire. As an aspiring retiree, I think that's the fair way to do it. The only time a pass riding employee should be given priority is if he/she is commuting to work. Not from work. There should be a specific category to cover employees going to work ahead of employees/retirees doing liesure travel.

 

[CMH_GSE]

What is AA's non rev policy for parents?

Parents of employees get one D1 pass per year, and fly as D3P the rest of the time. D3P is one step above D3 and just below D2.

 

[john john]

Interesting. At AA there are only 3 non-rev pass priorities--D1, D2, D3. Active and retired employees travel either on a D1 or D2. There is no differentiation as to current employment status. D3 is for friends and non-immediate family.

All employees traveling on company business are one of the A categories. Crew members deadheading to work a flight travel A1D--pos space, must travel, must be given a cabin seat. Deadheading back to base from working a flight, we travel A3--which is not guaranteed pos space. In fact, as a flight attendant I can be forced to deadhead on a jumpseat when A3.

Are there B, C, or E categories? I have no idea. I've never seen one in my vast career of 10 years.

What is a TWA retiree ? and regards to an AA retiree

 

[jimntx]

It's nice to hear that AA gives retirees the same priority as employees, all based on date of hire.

No, you misunderstood. Retirees have the same priority as employees, but date of hire has nothing to do with whether or not you get on the airplane. The non-rev list is in check-in time order, period. That's why I said that when non-revving, it's best if you can be seated at a computer exactly 24 hours prior to scheduled departure; so, you can get checked in first.

 

[Phoenix]

No, you misunderstood. Retirees have the same priority as employees, but date of hire has nothing to do with whether or not you get on the airplane. The non-rev list is in check-in time order, period. That's why I said that when non-revving, it's best if you can be seated at a computer exactly 24 hours prior to scheduled departure; so, you can get checked in first.

Thats not fair to retirees... I mean that computer thingy. Just tell them you have been camping out at the gate for 24 hrs.

 

[Pi brat]

No, you misunderstood. Retirees have the same priority as employees, but date of hire has nothing to do with whether or not you get on the airplane. The non-rev list is in check-in time order, period. That's why I said that when non-revving, it's best if you can be seated at a computer exactly 24 hours prior to scheduled departure; so, you can get checked in first.

Well it's a good thing that US will be the surviving carrier, dba AA. Then we can fix that crap! DOH for boarding. (That's a little light hearted banter, don't get mad. I don't think this will happen)

 

[Keroseneuser]

Forget all that crap and get down to the really important stuff.......

Does AA still have to wear the hat?

 

[Pi brat]

Forget all that crap and get down to the really important stuff.......

Does AA still have to wear the hat?

I don't know, but if we do AA has much better wings and hat pin than we do! ;-)

 

[nycbusdriver]

No, you misunderstood. Retirees have the same priority as employees, but date of hire has nothing to do with whether or not you get on the airplane. The non-rev list is in check-in time order, period. That's why I said that when non-revving, it's best if you can be seated at a computer exactly 24 hours prior to scheduled departure; so, you can get checked in first.

Thank you for that information. I had forgotten that most carriers don't use hire date for pass riding.

 

[EastCheats]

No, you misunderstood. Retirees have the same priority as employees, but date of hire has nothing to do with whether or not you get on the airplane. The non-rev list is in check-in time order, period. That's why I said that when non-revving, it's best if you can be seated at a computer exactly 24 hours prior to scheduled departure; so, you can get checked in first.

The AA system is much better than what we have now. America West had the same methodology befor the acquisition of US Airways. It should be in the order of check-in.
DOH was not accepted for our pilot integration, not now or with the AA meger, so it should not be used in boarding priority.

 

[Lloyd Grey]

You are right, there should be a combined thread to discuss AA/US jointly. The flight attendants have started a discussion group on FB yesterday called AA/USAir and the membership has reached almost 9000 within 24 hours! Lots to to about.

https://www.facebook.com/messages/1294476158#!/groups/323721051027355/324598637606263/?notif_t=group_activity

You can bet we're watching this thread, leggy lady.