US and AA pilot career values vs other major carriers

[Crash Pad DCA]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/23/discount-airlines-workers_n_5193823.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592

According to the above graph US and AA pilots career values are below the average...

 

[autofixer]

Retirement?

 

[PullUp]

If this data is true and current, then some conclusions can be drawn: AA/US pilots are still underpaid by a large margin. The 2015 pay structure results in a pay and benefit cut for a lot of US pilots. The 2016 'industry standard' comparison pay adjustment (that may or may not happen) is a projected 16% which still puts the combined AA pilots in last place among industry peers.
The suprise in this chart was that DAL pilots are not the highest paid -  UAL guys are. The DIFF column is the difference between AA and UAL.
So, as the pilots are about to enter into JCBA negotiations soon, keep this data in mind and remember that even with the MTA pay raises AA will lag behind.
 
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AA pay: Average pay is 29.37/hr (18.9%) lower than UAL's, leading to greater retirement disparity.
Goal: Raise Average pay rates to UAL's. A 20% increase will bridge the gap.
 
AA benefits: Lag behind UAL's by 404/month or 4849/year (18.5%).
Goal: Lower benefit costs to employees by  400/month. This is not a concurring goal with pay, rather additional.
 
I'm not going to tackle retirement numbers, because I can't understand how they computed 3.7M for US guys and I don't have intimate knowledge of whether or not pension plans are still in place at other carriers. Maybe someone else on the board can tackle those. However, from legacy US pilots standpoint, W-2 is everything. Increasing income increases retirement contributions. A 20% DC rate would go a long way to shore up retirment savings...
So, how about "20/20/20" for a bargaining slogan?
20% wage increase/ 20% benefits cost decrease/ 20% DC contribution rate
Cheers.

 

[jimntx]

I don't suppose it occurred to you that possibly one of the contributing factors to the huge losses UAL is producing could be pilot compensation?

 

[WorldTraveler]

check the graph again, jim and see what companies are to the right of UA. are they profitable?

in fact, all of the carriers that are above average are profitable EXCEPT UA - and they haven't even fallen to being unprofitable on an annualized basis.

further, the industry as a whole is more profitable than it has been in years.

Employees should be participating in the success of the industry. They paid a high enough price during deregulation and BK.