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delta777
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Pretty ballsy for an airline that, according to the article was,
among SmarterTravel's readers to be picked as the worst airline, the "least favorite" domestic US airline and the "dirtiest airline cabin" among American carriers.
among SmarterTravel's readers to be picked as the worst airline, the "least favorite" domestic US airline and the "dirtiest airline cabin" among American carriers.
az_wild727
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Although lower fuel prices could support Piney's claim about some people possibly driving to NJ for a CO flight, however it's still at least 80 miles . You're dealing with bad weather (at times), traffic on the I, and parking costs. Some will do it, most won't. Although the same can be said, about some people driving from EWR to PHL, should US offer a lower fare. Still unlikely for both cases...
-Kinglobjaw
Why should US reduce fares this fare in advance? If they are getting reservations at the current price, they should absolutely NOT reduce the fare. If advance bookings are below projections, then I could see them adjusting the price, but even still we're well in advance of next summer.
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US AIRWAYS FAN
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I actually agree with USFlyer on this one....if they can get away with it then do it...especially this far in advance. As the weeks get closer and the aircraft is not filling up....then lower the price.
I would just use my miles.....but that's just me.
jimcfs
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What about those traveling from AVP? Are they going to take a CRJ or a plain ol' Dash to PHL, put up with Terminal F'ed and then connect to A... or are they going to fly CO on another Dash and connect in EWR? I know where my money is put on the answer to that question... since the fare will probably be cheaper on CO.
SS255
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Actually, the people from AVP (the Jews, at least, and especially the group tours) would most likely drive to EWR and fly LY, all things being equal, because PHL and EWR are both about 2 hours from AVP. Our local rabbi runs tours to Israel about once a year, and when I read his report afterwards, to my recollection they always seem to fly LY out of EWR. I think that they might have flown CO once or twice, but usually it's LY. We're just so used to always driving to EWR (or JFK) to fly to TLV that unless US aggressively markets this service and prices it correctly (i.e. on par with or below CO and LY), I just cannot see many AVP based people flying US.
My guess is that Tempe is counting on PHL area Jews choosing "convenience" over price. Ditto for Philly-bound Israelis, who may prefer the convenience of a straight shot to PHL over a drive from EWR to the Philly area. (Of course.....they can always fly CO and take a lovely RJ from EWR-PHL.)
SS255
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Except that the group tours tend to book very early, so US essentially is leaving money on the table by not pricing competitively. If I were Rosenbluth Travel, booking a Philly Metro Area Federation Mission (aka Jewish Federation group trip to Israel, for those of you who are unfamiliar with the lingo), I'd pretty much know if I was getting hosed on the airfare or not. And I'd book my clients out of EWR, on LY.
az_wild727
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Since we're talking about coach fares, there is no service level difference, and people won't drive to EWR just to get 1 extra/less packet of crackers or 2 more/less grapes on CO.
I don't know about CO, but US offers On-Demand personal IFE in Coach on all wide body Airbus and the A332 will have that too.
Speaking of higher comfort level. US of course! Choice between a cramped 3-3-3 with middle and window seats that are 2 seats away from aisle or a very friendly 2-4-2 configuration where all seats are 1 or 0 away from aisle. 2's perfect for couples, 4's perfect for families! (C- Convenience)
On top of that, US Airways' aircraft on the route will be far newer than what CO has to offer, but that's beside the points. The 777 is still a great a/c, but I'm an Airbus type of guy! (A- Appearance)
Ok, so we covered 2 of the RCA's. Now, for the R (Reliability.)
US's PHL operation tops CO's at EWR. Less bags lost, US # 1 on time and an almost-non existent t/a flights cancellation frequency. Virtually no t/a flights canceled speaks of the high reliability of PHL.
-Kinglobjaw.
Tour groups, given their volume, negotiate special prices directly with airlines.
nycbusdriver
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It crazy for this Jerusalem newspaper to plead for USAirways to reduce its fare. If the fare is tenable, USAirways will have profitable load factors on the route; if the fare is untenable, the market (not the Jerusalem Post) will slap USAirways with a harsh dose of reality.
FrugalFlyerv2.0
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US Airways!!! Yeeeeeaaaaaahhhhh!
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You're such a good high school cheerleader!
aredeeyou22
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It's not even the newspaper. It's another expert "travel adviser" blogging, just like the many many "experts" we have writing about the airlines all over the USA...
It cracks me up that so many people look at airlines as if they should be "non- profit" entities. Gimme a break: If the fares don't sell, they'll lower them like they do in every other market in the world. It's nothing new. Does this "expert" think they don't have a yield management team looking at this? Better lower the fares, because an "expert" at the Post told us to!
