The DOL files suit against the IAMPF and trustees

Does anyone believe that being given a "choice" is a viable component given the average age of the TWU membership? 
 
Weaasles, for someone who has claimed not to be a supporter of the IAMPF, you promote often.
 
Given that age is a factor is there enough time to retirement for anyone at American from the TWU side to achieve a reasonable payout?
 
Buck said:
Does anyone believe that being given a "choice" is a viable component given the average age of the TWU membership? 
 
Weaasles, for someone who has claimed not to be a supporter of the IAMPF, you promote often.
 
Given that age is a factor is there enough time to retirement for anyone at American from the TWU side to achieve a reasonable payout?


Hey Bucky. Last week I was working with a new hire who was 20 years old.

And I'm frankly getting sick of you actually now.

I support CHOICE because I'm not just a selfish old ******* who only thinks about himself.
 
WeAAsles said:
Hey Bucky. Last week I was working with a new hire who was 20 years old.

And I'm frankly getting sick of you actually now.

I support CHOICE because I'm not just a selfish bastard who only thinks about himself.
 
you are a selfish bastard . plus rude . if you workers in fleet decided you wanted to throw out the association. i would not say any thing because4 its your right. but when maintenance wants to better our self with amfa you complain and belly ache its none of your business what amts wants. so your a lier saying you don't think only of your self . because your best interest is for the amts to stay in the association your actions prove that by your anti amfa rants. and name calling to the people on here who do not want the association representing the amts names and insults . and you do not support our choicer to get a new union. your messages on here prove what I'm saying 
 
conehead777 said:
you are a selfish bastard . plus rude . if you workers in fleet decided you wanted to throw out the association. i would not say any thing because4 its your right. but when maintenance wants to better our self with amfa you complain and belly ache its none of your business what amts wants. so your a lier saying you don't think only of your self . because your best interest is for the amts to stay in the association your actions prove that by your anti amfa rants. and name calling to the people on here who do not want the association representing the amts names and insults . and you do not support our choicer to get a new union. your messages on here prove what I'm saying

Really? Really? Read..... If I hated AMFA why would I be wishing SWAMT all the best and have said numerous times that I like their updates? Read man read. Just did so again this morning.

And I don't speak for ALL of Fleet any more that any of you guys speak for ALL of the mechanics. You speak for YOU and you ONLY.

So yea I support CHOICE. If someone (maybe not me) wants the IAMPF I 100% support HIM or HER being given that CHOICE.
 
I know you have a clear disdain for unions, and in many respects I totally agree they are not run as democratically as they should be.  People in position of power no matter who they are have hidden agendas and sometimes work in their best interests rather than the people they represent.  Much like politics I imagine.  Many people I ran into at work simply do not care.  As long as they get their monetary rewards in one form or another they're happy. 
 
Roadking5560 said:
I know you have a clear disdain for unions, and in many respects I totally agree they are not run as democratically as they should be.  People in position of power no matter who they are have hidden agendas and sometimes work in their best interests rather than the people they represent.  Much like politics I imagine.  Many people I ran into at work simply do not care.  As long as they get their monetary rewards in one form or another they're happy. 
you are exactly right - it would be much better if your vote counted and you felt free to vote your mind
 
Read this over on the Delta forum. IAM pushing for representation for the flight attendants. They are desperate for members to be scammed into the IAMPF.

Consider this the Department of Labor has filed a lawsuit against a number of current and former IAM National Pension Fund trustees alleging multiple violations of federal laws protecting employees in pension plans.

The suit alleges that IAM National Pension Fund trustees breached their fiduciary duties by:

Failing to loyally and prudently select fund service providers, including consultants and fund investment managers;

Regularly ignoring required procedures included in the funds governing plan documents;

Creating conflicts of interest for the fund;

Unlawfully soliciting and accepting gratuities from plan service providers;
and
Spending and permitting others to spend fund assets lavishly on unnecessary trips, parties and extravagant food, wine, and accommodations.
Oink oink sounds like the slop must have been pretty thick at whatever grease-fest, good-ole boy, Vegas-style, cigar-smoke-filled-backroom-here-come-the-topless-dancing-babe-parties where the guys were blowing through hard working dues paying members money on goodness knows what hookers and booze?
 
1AA said:
Read this over on the Delta forum. IAM pushing for representation for the flight attendants. They are desperate for members to be scammed into the IAMPF.

Consider this the Department of Labor has filed a lawsuit against a number of current and former IAM National Pension Fund trustees alleging multiple violations of federal laws protecting employees in pension plans.

The suit alleges that IAM National Pension Fund trustees breached their fiduciary duties by:

Failing to loyally and prudently select fund service providers, including consultants and fund investment managers;

Regularly ignoring required procedures included in the funds governing plan documents;

Creating conflicts of interest for the fund;

Unlawfully soliciting and accepting gratuities from plan service providers;
and
Spending and permitting others to spend fund assets lavishly on unnecessary trips, parties and extravagant food, wine, and accommodations.
Oink oink sounds like the slop must have been pretty thick at whatever grease-fest, good-ole boy, Vegas-style, cigar-smoke-filled-backroom-here-come-the-topless-dancing-babe-parties where the guys were blowing through hard working dues paying members money on goodness knows what hookers and booze?
You do realize that is from an anti-union (IAM) former FA who was a big AFA supporter?
 
Too bad you didnt take the time to do any research, as Kevin, a very well respected DL Employee has discredited him.
 
Where in the DOL suit does it say the highlighted part?

Oh wait, it doesnt, so you post a blatant lie to further your hatred of the IAM.

Posting misinformation and lies, does nothing for your credibility nor your argument.
 
Campaign Update, the Clock is Ticking
 
Since the turn of the new year, our IAM-Delta campaign has hit a new gear. Tens of thousands of individualized, sequenced election authorization cards (A-cards) have been mailed to Delta Flight Attendants, emphasizing the importance of signing, dating, verifying and returning our a-cards now.
 
Signed A-cards have been flowing into IAM Headquarters and we are nearing our goal of being able to request an election for union representation. However, we are not there yet and that's why it's of the utmost importance to get our A-cards submitted today.
 

We will be able to file for our election as soon as early April. To be successful, we need all Delta Flight Attendants who seek a real Voice in our shared future to submit their A-cards today and encourage our co-workers to do the same. Call your friends. Talk to your Flight Attendant co-workers face to face and tell them the benefits of forming a union.
 
To realize our goal, Delta Flight Attendants are phone-banking and making house calls in targeted locations around the country. These Flight Attendant activist volunteers realize the urgency of our campaign and are doing everything in their power to get us to an election. We need you to have that same urgency and send in your A-card today.
 
Remember, it is our legal right under federal law to freely form a union. And for those of us that are fearful that Delta will discover who signed an A-card, don't be afraid. Delta is prohibited under federal law from ever finding out who signed an A-card or how we vote in a union representation election.
 
Delta management will continue do everything in its power to prevent Delta Flight Attendants from attaining a vote for union representation. We all must ask ourselves why Delta management would do anything and everything to prevent a vote.
The answer is that at present Delta management can change any of our terms of employment at any time for any reason and that is very valuable. The massive cut in our profit sharing pool, staffing reductions on certain aircraft, the ability to pass along health insurance and prescription drug costs are just a few examples.
 
Our shared future as Delta Flight Attendants should not be decided solely by Delta management. We deserve a say in the decisions that affect our professions and lives. That is why we need to send in our A-cards today.
 
Request your pre-filled election authorization card by clicking the link: http://www.iamdelta.net/acard/
 
And the man you quoted has a very checkered past.
 
Organizer of Defunct Union PFAA at NWA, who screwed over their members and they voted them out and voted in the the AFA.
 
He was outmatched and outwitted by none other than Gerry Glass, go look up who Gerry outsmarted them on dues collection.
 
And he was ousted from the PFAA for financial misuse, getting all the details and will post later.
 
http://josethehypocrite.blogspot.com/
 
This is a place where I have committed to providing NWA and DAL flight attendants truthful and accurate information about our union. I decided to create this blog after reading far too many of the unfortunate and dishonest anti-union blogs by SFO FA Jose Ibarra and Michael Lehr. For those who do not know the motivations of Jose and Michael, I believe it is important to know that Jose was the founder of our former independant union (PFAA) and sadly, he is still very angry that we replaced that union. Michael Lehr -- well, I'm not sure what his motivation is - it's not like he ever volunteered a day (or lifted a finger) for any of our unions on the NWA property -- nor does he understand how any of them operate. But, as a highly accomplished 'actor', I'm sure he can use all the publicity he can generate for himself - and what's more fun than being a watch dog for our flying partners who work hard to better our aviation careers.

Because we have so much at stake in our next AFA election, I felt it was time to hold Jose and Michael accountable for their false statements and their destructive campaign to destroy our voice at work. In return, I welcome the same accountability.

Let me start with a recent blog from Jose, entitled; AFA and the High Price of Failure, where he posts several false statements concerning flight pay loss for me and many others who have raised their hand to work for our union. Better yet, let me share with you the email I sent to Jose - along with his response:

 
    
 

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