The Ayes Have It

RV4

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The large number of disgruntled employees cannot help the bottom line. The so-called savings will be engulfed in the outrage.
 
Mike is right.

In one fell swoop, we''ve all given back everything every strike, every negotion and every drop of sweat that previous members worked, prayed for, and longed for.
Things which union negotiaters from the ALPA, TWU, IAM (on other carriers and which AA''s unions therefore got in their contracts), and all the flight attendant unions fought for in previous years.

From the first Union until 16 April 2003 it was mostly given back. Who needs unions anyway. Even non union Delta matched what the unions won.

Still sounds like management decisions put us here and not laborers sweat. We just do what we''re told. They are the one''s who come up with the business plans, the failed advertising and low fare thus low yield decisions.
 
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On 4/16/2003 5:43:45 PM TWAnr wrote:


Final vote counts: 20,543

10,761 Yes
9,652 No
592 Ineligible
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Check the math!

10761
9652
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20413 ? How does that become 20543
 
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On 4/16/2003 5:52:04 PM RV4 wrote:


The large number of disgruntled employees cannot help the bottom line. The so-called savings will be engulfed in the outrage.

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They''ll be some disgruntled employees but they''re probably the same ones who were disgruntled when AA was passing out profit sharing checks. Most of us are adults and understand that kind of behavior will not help you job security at all. The contracts stink!! Theres nothing good to be said about them. But we have to live with them and drive on!
 
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And so now what Chapter 11 on May 11?
 
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On 4/16/2003 6:00:11 PM AAmech wrote:

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On 4/16/2003 5:52:04 PM RV4 wrote:


The large number of disgruntled employees cannot help the bottom line. The so-called savings will be engulfed in the outrage.

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They''ll be some disgruntled employees but they''re probably the same ones who were disgruntled when AA was passing out profit sharing checks. Most of us are adults and understand that kind of behavior will not help you job security at all. The contracts stink!! Theres nothing good to be said about them. But we have to live with them and drive on!

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Unlikely, this will create a whole new group of I dont give a crap employees, who will tell you, dont like? Go fly United. You really want to see how disgruntled people become? Wait until the vacation rebid and these fools see the true loss. Wait until they see the next bid sheet. You will see more and more employees who used to care. Do the absolut minimum in flight and on the ground.
 
Well, we will see how long until BK court. The flight attendant vote was hijacked. Thank you john ward for giving away 20 years of negotiated work rules.
 
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On 4/16/2003 5:52:04 PM RV4 wrote:


The large number of disgruntled employees cannot help the bottom line. The so-called savings will be engulfed in the outrage.

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Hey RV4....can you speed up that job change you keep refering to....you''re tiresome, and dinosaur..

Move on and get out of way.....
 
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On 4/16/2003 5:43:45 PM TWAnr wrote:


Final vote counts:   20,543

10,761 Yes
9,652   No
592 Ineligible

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Who would have guessed.
 
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On 4/16/2003 5:57:07 PM RV4 wrote:
Check the math!

10761
9652
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20413 ? How does that become 20543

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Those are the numbers which are currently reported on the APFA web site. I am just the messenger; I did not add them up.

[url="http://www.apfa.org/"]http://www.apfa.org/[/URL]
 

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