The ACLU Defends NAMBLA

[local 12 proud]

http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murd...00402270920.asp

The Manhattan-based public-interest law firm is defending the North American Man-Boy Love Association in a $200 million civil lawsuit filed by Mr. and Mrs. Robert Curley. The Curleys claim that Charles Jaynes was driven by the literature and website of NAMBLA, an outfit that advocates sex between grown men and little boys, reportedly as young as age 8.

Watch the Liberals spin this one.
'If it feel's good do it' Huh Pussy cat!

 

[delldude]

Bunch of CSMF?

 

[Garfield1966]

From what I can tell from my google search is that they are advocating the changing of laws not the breaking of laws. While I find the premise of their group reprehensible, I do not see a difference between them and say the KKK who are also legal in this country. If the law suit against them is based on freedom of speech (as opposed to illegal actions) then yes I do support the ACLU representing them.

 

[local 12 proud]

From what I can tell from my google search is that they are advocating the changing of laws not the breaking of laws. While I find the premise of their group reprehensible, I do not see a difference between them and say the KKK who are also legal in this country. If the law suit against them is based on freedom of speech (as opposed to illegal actions) then yes I do support the ACLU representing them.

Hey pervert not that I support that group but please show me where the KKK ever advocated raping little boys.

You are one sick Individual!

 

[delldude]

From what I can tell from my google search is that they are advocating the changing of laws not the breaking of laws. While I find the premise of their group reprehensible, I do not see a difference between them and say the KKK who are also legal in this country. If the law suit against them is based on freedom of speech (as opposed to illegal actions) then yes I do support the ACLU representing them.

KKK supports white supremacy......

Nambla supports getting little boys pants down and in bed with old men.

Where is your liberal head at these days?

 

[local 12 proud]

KKK supports white supremacy......

Nambla supports getting little boys pants down and in bed with old men.

Where is your liberal head at these days?

I think his 'head' is more interested in sodomizing rather than being inserted his own poop chute!

Just as I predicted, a Lib would come out in defense and SPIN...

 

[UAL_TECH]

From what I can tell from my google search is that they are advocating the changing of laws not the breaking of laws. While I find the premise of their group reprehensible, I do not see a difference between them and say the KKK who are also legal in this country. If the law suit against them is based on freedom of speech (as opposed to illegal actions) then yes I do support the ACLU representing them.

You really cannot be serious.

'premise' 'reprehensible' comparison to 'kkk'

JMHO, BIG difference here from supporting whako racists and pedephiles. If you think it is the same, then you are one sick puppy yourself. :mf_boff:

 

[Garfield1966]

KKK supports white supremacy......

Nambla supports getting little boys pants down and in bed with old men.

Where is your liberal head at these days?

They advocate the elimination of any one who is not white from the US. Yes, the KKK is the poster child for peaceful change.

NABLA from what I can tell wants the laws changed. Not saying I agree with them but they should have the right to speak their peace.

 

[UAL_TECH]

They advocate the elimination of any one who is not white from the US. Yes, the KKK is the poster child for peaceful change.

NABLA from what I can tell wants the laws changed. Not saying I agree with them but they should have the right to speak their peace.

That is 'NAMBLA' not NABLA.
Acronym for:
North American Man/Boy Love Association

NAMBLA

Before you run your stupid mouth, you might want to at least understand what the 'F' you are supporting.

 

[Ch. 12]

OK...KKK has killed many people of "inferior" races by hangings, burning, shooting, etc. You idiots ought to move to the backwoods of Alabama since you don't really see much wrong with it. NAMBLA is an atrocity as well...though I am certain that their scope is probaby tiny in comparison to the KKK. Perhaps if we let NAMBLA members boy-rape the young kids that are being molded by their KKK parents to carry on the torch of terror, killing, and domination and the two despicable groups will cancel themselves out.

Now...from what I read in a quick read, it looks like the court case is b/c somebody is looking to blame their own idiotic actions (killing and then raping a 10 yr old) on a group b/c that group planted the seed. Well...you burn your mouth on hot coffee b/c it's hot...not b/c McD's didn't post a warning. IN the same way, you commit leud and malicious acts b/c you are a seriously sick and warped individual...not b/c you read a pamphlet. I would defend any group from such frivilous crap b/c that is what our justice system calls for. What I would NOT do and what...even though you all have inferred...is NOT happening is defending the message of NAMBLA. But I definitely think it's BS that a couple of monsters of human beings are trying to get let off by saying that they couldn't control their actions b/c they read a flyer.

 

[Garfield1966]

That is 'NAMBLA' not NABLA.
Acronym for:
North American Man/Boy Love Association

NAMBLA

Before you run your stupid mouth, you might want to at least understand what the 'F' you are supporting.

Childish name calling aside. Let’s take a look at the issue.

This law suit does not have a damn thing to do with NAMBLA. It has to do with freedom of speech (as far as I can tell). If the members of NAMBLA (or any other organization for that matter) are committing criminal acts, then put them on trial, convict them and put them in jail. From all that I have read, NAMBLA is a group advocating that certain laws be changed. Whether or not you or I like agree with them is not at issue. This is a freedom of speech issue.

As far as I am aware from my few law classes and readings, US law is based on precedent. Read a court ruling if you don’t believe me. I am not concerned with the ramblings of a few twists who are so far outside main stream society. I am concerned with some over zealous DA or legislature getting away with restricting speech just because it offends someone’s sensibilities.

You folks need to stop looking at things with such a narrow scope. Any limitation of free speech needs to be looked at very carefully. This has nothing to do with NAMBLA, the march in Skokie had nothing to do with the Nazi’s. It has everything to do with the freedoms we all enjoy. I for one am not going to let them go with out a fight.

 

[local 12 proud]

You folks need to stop looking at things with such a narrow scope. Any limitation of free speech needs to be looked at very carefully. This has nothing to do with NAMBLA, the march in Skokie had nothing to do with the Nazi’s. It has everything to do with the freedoms we all enjoy. I for one am not going to let them go with out a fight.

...and you need to pull your head out, It has everything to do with NAMBLA and what it advocates.

NAMBLA is "not just publishing material that says it's OK to have sex with children and advocating changing the law," says Larry Frisoli, a Cambridge attorney who is arguing the Curleys case in federal court. NAMBLA, he says, "is actively training their members how to rape children and get away with it. They distribute child pornography and trade live children among NAMBLA members with the purpose of having sex with them."

Frisoli cites a NAMBLA publication he calls "The Rape and Escape Manual." Its actual title is "The Survival Manual: The Man's Guide to Staying Alive in Man-Boy Sexual Relationships."

"Its chapters explain how to build relationships with children," Frisoli tells me. "How to gain the confidence of children's parents. Where to go to have sex with children so as not to get caught...There is advice, if one gets caught, on when to leave America and how to rip off credit card companies to get cash to finance your flight. It's pretty detailed."

Free speech does not mean free to incite and encourage rape, murder, pedophilia, or any damn thing you want or choose.
If you distribute a pamplet advocating with the 'How too' of assasinating a US president, or blowing up a government building, see how fast the Secret Service pays you a visit and totes your butt away.
There are some lines in society that you do not cross, and for you to defend asinine garbage as the right to practice pedophilia between a Man and a Boy shows how twisted and deranged your liberal thinking has become.

 

[Garfield1966]

I suspect the case is not quite as clear cut as the DA implies. Freedom of speech covers a wide spectrum of issues. It allows the KKK advocate a pure white Arian race (what is that you think they plan on doing with those who don't meet that profile?), it allows people to publish instructions for turning a semi-auto gun to a full auto (very illegal), to build a suicide machine (illegal) to build a nuke (illegal). As far as I know, you can even sell / buy the parts to convert a gun to auto legally, you just can't do it. You name an illegal act and I would bet there is a book or two or… published to tell you how to do it. My understanding of US law is that thought is not illegal (at least not yet). I would imagine that there is a fine legal line between advocacy and instruction.

If the case were as clear cut as the DA seems to wish it was, my guess is there would be people in jail.

The selective enforcement of US laws is eloquently pointed out by your secret service example. Pat Robertson can advocate the assassination of a world leader but had someone advocated the assassination of Bush, they go to jail. Just because someone gets arrested some not mean they are guilty. I know you think Chaves deserves it but again, laws are not based on individual situation (that's why the BS that Congress and the FL state legislature in regards to Terri Shiavo (sp?) failed), laws apply to all people equally.

I believe your lack of understanding in how the US legal system functions is indicative of how twisted your deranged conservative thinking has become.

 

[delldude]

Your liberal mis-understanding of the issue at hand sucks....

KKK wants to gather and promote white supremacy..fine...in this country they have the freedom protected right to assemble....the freedom protected right of free speach...as long as they do not breach any civil laws.

However...your love child(oops poor choice of words) NAMBLA in its name pursues an intimate relationship with little boys.....by grown up men.By grown up men only....this intimate association is a violation of civil and criminal law.

KKK wants to gather and burn a cross and hate whomever....so be it,they have that protected right.

NAMBLA wants to get in bed with little boys for no other reason and I don't care how they package it.....than to have an intimate relationship which IS A VIOLATION OF OUR LAWS....and you in any way,shape or form come out in LIBERAL defense of these sick minded perverts...then you,like it says in the Bible...are judged by the company you keep or support.

HERES TO YOU AND THE FREAKS YOU SUPPORT :down:

 

[Garfield1966]

Your liberal mis-understanding of the issue at hand sucks....

KKK wants to gather and promote white supremacy..fine...in this country they have the freedom protected right to assemble....the freedom protected right of free speach...as long as they do not breach any civil laws.

However...your love child(oops poor choice of words) NAMBLA in its name pursues an intimate relationship with little boys.....by grown up men.By grown up men only....this intimate association is a violation of civil and criminal law.

KKK wants to gather and burn a cross and hate whomever....so be it,they have that protected right.

NAMBLA wants to get in bed with little boys for no other reason and I don't care how they package it.....than to have an intimate relationship which IS A VIOLATION OF OUR LAWS....and you in any way,shape or form come out in LIBERAL defense of these sick minded perverts...then you,like it says in the Bible...are judged by the company you keep or support.

HERES TO YOU AND THE FREAKS YOU SUPPORT :down:

It’s like talking to a brick wall.

What the KKK advocates is not merely passive objection to minorities. What NAMBLA advocates is in the same despicable category. Just as with the KKK, until one of them commits a violet act against someone, they are not in violation of the law (having sex with a minor is , writing about it is not). Until a member of NAMBLA commits an act in violation of the law, there is little that can be done.

So, to review, wanting to do something is not against the law, carrying out that desire may be against the law.

I know that US law does not always support what you want but those are the rules of the game. Don’t like it? Then change the laws.