Thank You Jim Little

[Bob Owens]

Holiday
Lets examine Jim Littles fine work on what he did with what used to be called a Holiday.This is something that USAIR and UAL DID NOT LOSE EVEN THROUGH BANKRUPTCY.

While we can be sure that the ATD office will be empty on July 4 you can also be sure that fewer than ever Line workers will have any Holidays off. Why? Because while our contract says that we WILL be granted 5 holidays with pay it also allows the company to make us work at half pay on the holidays. The company would be stupid not to make you work, they are getting you at half pay. This is probably the most unique holiday clause in existance. Its doubtful that the company would have gotten such language even if they went through bankruptcy because this is so preposterous its almost beyond belief. If you are already entitled to eight hour pay for the holiday but you have to report for work then you are not getting a holiday. So the language is conflicting.

If there is a holiday with pay that means that for working a 32 hour week you get 40 hours pay. Holiday with pay means day off with pay, however our contract allows the company to force us to work the holiday for a total of 44 hours of pay. So in other words you are working 8 hours for 4 hours of pay since you are already entitled to eight hours pay with the day off.

Great Job Jim! You are sure to make the History books as the worst ever labor leader! You have undone over 5 decades of progress! Even Frank Lorenzo did not cut as deep as you.

 

[NewHampshire Black Bears]

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On 6/27/2003 8:16:00 PM Bob Owens wrote:

Holiday
Lets examine Jim Littles fine work on what he did with what used to be called a Holiday.This is something that USAIR and UAL DID NOT LOSE EVEN THROUGH BANKRUPTCY.

While we can be sure that the ATD office will be empty on July 4 you can also be sure that fewer than ever Line workers will have any Holidays off. Why? Because while our contract says that we WILL be granted 5 holidays with pay it also allows the company to make us work at half pay on the holidays. The company would be stupid not to make you work, they are getting you at half pay. This is probably the most unique holiday clause in existance. Its doubtful that the company would have gotten such language even if they went through bankruptcy because this is so preposterous its almost beyond belief. If you are already entitled to eight hour pay for the holiday but you have to report for work then you are not getting a holiday. So the language is conflicting.

If there is a holiday with pay that means that for working a 32 hour week you get 40 hours pay. Holiday with pay means day off with pay, however our contract allows the company to force us to work the holiday for a total of 44 hours of pay. So in other words you are working 8 hours for 4 hours of pay since you are already entitled to eight hours pay with the day off.

Great Job Jim! You are sure to make the History books as the worst ever labor leader! You have undone over 5 decades of progress! Even Frank Lorenzo did not cut as deep as you.

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Bob;

Let me get this straight.

If a member were to unfortunately be striken ILL on 7/4, then he/she would be paid 32 hours + 8 hours,for the day that he/she was unable to report for work ??

Naturally the member would rather work(on the 4th of july), so as to be able to receive the "overtime", as opposed to being "stuck" at home, on the 4th, while recuperating.

With this "new" contract, would the member still be charged/paid "H/O", and not lose one of the "many" SK days that we''re "given", annually ??

NH/BB''s

 

[Checking it Out]

Bob I believe you are in error. Jim Little has no voting Power. But you know this you are just twisting the issues. Your Local President and the others Negotiators had the power to bring the contract back to the Members for a vote. Which the members are the ones who took the power and voted in the Contract.

You See, at least we know their is more members employed now than at NW and United. NW Negotiators were willing to give up 300 million in Farmout Language for more Wages! in turn, 4500 Mechanics are currently on Layoff statis with more to come! At United, an outside entity played a major role in their decission and mass layoffs continue!

TWU SOLIDARITY!

 

[Buck]

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On 6/28/2003 2:22:47 PM Checking it Out wrote:


Bob I believe you are in error. Jim Little has no voting Power. But you know this you are just twisting the issues. Your Local President and the others Negotiators had the power to bring the contract back to the Members for a vote. Which the members are the ones who took the power and voted in the Contract.

You See, at least we know their is more members employed now than at NW and United. NW Negotiators were willing to give up 300 million in Farmout Language for more Wages! in turn, 4500 Mechanics are currently on Layoff statis with more to come! At United, an outside entity played a major role in their decission and mass layoffs continue!

TWU SOLIDARITY!


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More members (larger airline) lowest average wage!

 

[Bob Owens]

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On 6/28/2003 2:22:47 PM Checking it Out wrote:


Bob I believe you are in error. Jim Little has no voting Power. But you know this you are just twisting the issues. Your Local President and the others Negotiators had the power to bring the contract back to the Members for a vote. Which the members are the ones who took the power and voted in the Contract.

You See, at least we know their is more members employed now than at NW and United. NW Negotiators were willing to give up 300 million in Farmout Language for more Wages! in turn, 4500 Mechanics are currently on Layoff statis with more to come! At United, an outside entity played a major role in their decission and mass layoffs continue!

TWU SOLIDARITY!


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Who signed the contract?

When Jim Little changed the contract did the Presidents Council vote on it?

Was the changed agreement brought back to the members or did he make the decision by himself?

The fact is that the agreement that is in place now was "voted" on by only one person, Jim Little. The 30,000 members did not get to vote. By saying that Jim does not get to vote you are playing semantics. Jim has the ultimate "vote". The only one that really counts.

Certain facts came to light and the company then offered to change the unsigned agreement, but only if Jim violated the Constitution by not allowing the members to vote on it.

He made the decision , one that does not affect him , for us.

Why should someone who is not elected by us or accountable to us be able to make such decisions for us?

 

[RV4]

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On 6/28/2003 2:22:47 PM Checking it Out wrote:


You See, at least we know their is more members employed now than at NW and United.

TWU SOLIDARITY!

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IT's ALL ABOUT THE DUES, NOT YOUR PAY AND BENEFITS!



WHAT ABOUT THE 3500 TWU MEMBER JUST LAID-OFF? DON'T THEY COUNT TO YOU?

Where is your limit to save jobs Checking it Out?

Next time will you give up your pension and your retirement medical to save jobs? Will you agree to minimum wage for maintenance workers? WHERE IS YOUR LIMIT?

This whole thing is just a re-run of 1994!

Read this:

May 19, 1994

American Presses Unions on Work Rules

By Mitch Maurer

Section: BUSINESS
Edition: FINAL HOME EDITION
Page: B1
Estimated Printed Pages: 2

Article Text:

FARMERS BRANCH, Texas - American Airlines Chairman

Robert Crandall guaranteed job security Wednesday to the airline's union workers, provided they accept work rule changes.

If American is not able to cut costs with its three major unions, the airline will continue to shrink, Crandall told reporters at the AMR Corp.'s annual meeting.

"We must get productivity increases either by reducing the number of employees . . . or by producing more work by the people we have," Crandall said. "There is more flying we could do with the existing aircraft we have."

And if the company is able to cut costs, he said, it is possible it could actually start to increase the number of planes it flies, although it probably would lease instead of purchase new aircraft.

American and the Association of Professional Flight Attendants, which represents 21,000 workers at the company, are choosing arbitrators to decide what pay and benefits flight attendants will receive in their new contract with the airline.

The attendants went on strike in November after failing to reach a contract agreement. The airline then agreed to enter binding arbitration to settle the dispute.

Crandall said it is too early to tell what arbitrators will decide. However, if the airline has to pay too much for its flight attendants, it will ground more aircraft or withdraw from more markets, he said.

American also is negotiating with the Allied Pilots Association on a contract that expires later this year.

"I wouldn't say talks are going good and I wouldn't say talks are going poorly," Crandall said. "They are just going."

The head of the nation's largest airline, with 95,000 employees and a fleet of more than 660 aircraft, said part of the company's current mission is to meet with management of its unions and convince them of the importance of increasing productivity.

American is scheduled to try to work out a new contract with its Transport Workers Union, representing mechanics and ground handlers, next year.

"We have said to our unions that if we get substantial productivity increases, we will guarantee today's employees job security," Crandall said.

In the early 1980s, American successfully negotiated contracts with its unions, creating a lower tier of pay for incoming workers. In exchange, the airline promised to increase the size of its fleet.

Last year, AMR implemented a "Transition Plan" under which it would withdraw from unprofitable markets, increase service in strong markets and try to make its other businesses more profitable.

Since starting that program, American has grounded 78 jets and has plans to ground an additional 17 planes this year. The airline also has eliminated service in 46 markets.

Crandall told shareholders Wednesday that 1993's loss of $117 million was an improvement over the previous year. It was not, however, good enough, he said.

"To perform adequately, it will require the consent and cooperation of our unions," he said. "Otherwise, we won't be able to compete and eventually won't be around, like so many other former competitors."

Crandall said the company's board of directors is not considering starting a second or another low-cost airline. The pilots union contract prohibits that.

"We have no desire to start another airline," he said. "What we want to do is make the airline we have more successful."



THE TWU SAGA AND SELLOUT FOR DUES PAYERS CONTINUES?
YET THEY ALLOW THE JOB SECURITY TO BE LIFTED AND MEMBERS ON THE STREET.

THE CONCESSIONS OF 1994 DIDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING. WHY DO YOU THINK THIS ROUND WILL BE ANY DIFFERENT?

 

[RV4]

1989 Concessions


June 5, 1989

TWU ratifies pact
By DON STEWART
Section: BUSINESS
Edition: FINAL HOME
Page: 6C
Estimated Printed Pages: 3
Article Text:
In a vote that surprised and disappointed its leadership, members of American Airlines' Transport Workers Union have ratified a four-year contract worth $610 million in wages and benefits.
Throughout American's system, affirmative votes were cast by 75.8 percent of the 22,000-member TWU membership, union leaders said.
In Tulsa, where 6,300 union members are employed at American's Maintenance and Engineering Center at Tulsa International Airport, 66 percent of those voting cast ballots favoring ratification, said Ed Wilson, president of Local 514 of the TWU.
American officials said they were pleased with the results of the vote, which was conducted nearly a month ago by the various union locals.
"We are delighted at the outcome of the TWU vote," said Charles Pasciuto, American's vice president, employee relations.
"This contract includes many innovative provisions that will benefit both the company and its employees. This clears the way for us to continue building the airline by giving our customers the finest possible service on the industry's youngest and best maintained fleet.
"It is a real win-win deal."
Wilson, who last month urged union members to reject the proposed contract in favor of a more generous proposal that would pay workers more than $900 million in wages and benefits, said he was surprised at the outcome.
"We made concessions while they (American) are making enormous profits," Wilson said. "I think it (the contract) is a big mistake on the part of both parties.
"We are going to give them $1.5 billion in wage concessions over the next four years. They are going to make so much money they'll make General Motors look like pikers."
The new contract includes union concessions on work rules, wages, benefits and starting wage rates, Wilson said.
However, the contract did not include American's initial proposal whereby employees would begin contributing toward their own health insurance, a key obstacle in early negotiations between the two sides.
That stumbling block was overcome with the company's proposal of "flex benefits," under which the company will allocate to each employee a certain amount of money to be used toward benefits and the worker will be able to select the desired coverage.
The contract also accelerates the advancement of workers along American's 14-step pay scale. Currently, it takes workers 12 years to reach the top of the wage scale; workers sought to advance to the top in five years.
Under a compromise agreement, the two sides agreed that some workers could advance to the top of the scale in 10 years. The new scale will take effect in three years, Wilson said.
Much of the wage increases will go to workers at the top of American's wage scale, TWU officials said.
Today, the industry average pay for senior TWU workers is about $20.50 per hour. American's senior ground workers will be paid $21.50 per hour under the new contract, Wilson said.
American, which is in the midst of an expansion program that calls for the airline to buy up to $2 billion worth of new aircraft per year through the mid-1990s, sought to avoid a strike or wage concessions that would have come at the expense of long-term growth, said American spokesman Al Becker.
"This contract allows us to continue our growth plan and through that we can continue to provide job opportunities and increasing job security.," Becker said.
Wilson said American negotiators told him that the new contract includes wages and benefits for 7,000 workers the company intends to hire during the next four years.
Instead of the new contract offering American TWU workers wages and benefits of more than $600 million, a more accurate figure would be about $390 million, not counting the money for new employees, Wilson said.
"We weren't negotiating for those (new) people. We were negotiating for workers who are already with the company," Wilson said.
As far as the company's assertion that the new contract assures workers job security, Wilson said, "The job security they gave us was for people who would not have been laid off anyway in a growing industry."

HOW MUCH IS YOUR CURRENT PAYCHECK DEDUCTION FOR "FLEX BENEFITS"?

 

[RUM@AA]

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On 6/28/2003 2:22:47 PM Checking it Out wrote:


Bob I believe you are in error. Jim Little has no voting Power. But you know this you are just twisting the issues. Your Local President and the others Negotiators had the power to bring the contract back to the Members for a vote. Which the members are the ones who took the power and voted in the Contract.

You See, at least we know their is more members employed now than at NW and United. NW Negotiators were willing to give up 300 million in Farmout Language for more Wages! in turn, 4500 Mechanics are currently on Layoff statis with more to come! At United, an outside entity played a major role in their decission and mass layoffs continue!

TWU SOLIDARITY!


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Latest TWU Slogan: (to be seen on t-shirts soon)
TWU...Yeah, We Suck, but AMFA's Worse!

 

[RV4]

Another interesting screen capture from the TWU EXPRESS Int''l Newspaper:



WHAT HAPPENED TO THE AMERICAN AIRLINES MECHANIC''s OBSERVANCE OF MEMORIAL DAY?

Can you say "GONE" and "WITHOUT FURTHER RATIFICATION"?

 

[RV4]

The AFL-CIO Website explains "How and Why People Join Unions".

I fail to recognize the AFL-CIO details about "Without Further Ratification" and in the face of company sponsored and hidden retention bonuses, and pensions, that we will forfeit 17.5% in pay, 5 Paid Holidays, 5 Vacation Days, 50% of pay if you get sick, as well over 3500 union jobs that were protected by Job Security provisions. Can someone please post where or how I can locate this so-called union agenda? Are we being duped by the AFL-CIO and the TWU?

According to the AFL-CIO, joining a union will result in higher wages and more quality time with your families. I guess the AFL-CIO never met James C. Little, Sonny Hall, Gary Yingst, Rany McDonald, and the infamous Checking it Out?

Screen Capture from AFL-CIO website: