Survival Strategies In Bk

[UseYourHead]

At this point after reading the UAL board along with others airlines, and other industries problems, it begs the question, Does what needs to be done have any bearing on who is to blame?

Survival at this time is a math equation on one hand (short term), and on the other it will be an exercise in rebuilding relationships (employee relations).

Will we have the courage to do what we need to do short term, and are we mature enough to see the industry, and the world as it is and move on with our lives either here at US Airways or elsewhere if better opportunities exist?

Please weigh in.

 

[delldude]

second time around...who gives a damn? :down:
dude this job goes belly up can i suggest you look up gallup or zogby...they can use someone like you.

 

[UseYourHead]

And what will your plan "B" consist of, just curious?

second time around...who gives a damn? :down:
dude this job goes belly up can i suggest you look up gallup or zogby...they can use someone like you.

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[delldude]

And what will your plan "B" consist of, just curious?

[post="229131"][/post]​

i recently hit the powerball and plan to provide exit financing for Uair..

 

[WestCoastGuy]

It is getting to the point where a job with an airline is just a start to a "real" job, much like your first job at McDonalds or washing dishes at a restaurant. The pay and benefits going into the toilet no longer make this a career type position, just a transition to a job that provides future benefits and advancement. No one now should ever look toward any airline job as permanent. It is only a matter of time until all the airlines line up to get wages and benefits into line with USair.

 

[diogenes]

At this point after reading the UAL board along with others airlines, and other industries problems, it begs the question, Does what needs to be done have any bearing on who is to blame?

Survival at this time is a math equation on one hand (short term), and on the other it will be an exercise in rebuilding relationships (employee relations).

Will we have the courage to do what we need to do short term, and are we mature enough to see the industry, and the world as it is and move on with our lives either here at US Airways or elsewhere if better opportunities exist?

Please weigh in.

[post="229124"][/post]​

Certainly, anyone's mea culpa at this point will not change the math.

What it could change is the willingness to accept the math.

Why, according to SchofieldWolfGanghwalSiegelLakefieldBronner, are the woes at U due to labor costs and work rules? The fact that WN pays their employees at a substantially higher rate than U would indicate that some of the problem might be the business plan.

Why are line-employees held accountable, by management, every day, when that self-same management avoids responsibility?

Look at the metrics employees exert infuence over - On- time, completion factor, passenger satisfaction, etc. Until very recently, U was at the very top of these stats, despite a dismal work environment (note to Palace:it's called professionalism).

Look at the metric management presides over - profits.

Until the Palace accepts responsibilty for their errors, why would anyone believe real change is on the way?

Why throw more good money after bad?

And the frightening thing is - the Palace does not think they have done a single thing wrong.

 

[WestCoastGuy]

And the frightening thing is - the Palace does not think they have done a single thing wrong.

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This has been the thinking of the various regimes that have occupied those offices over the years. The thinking stays in the box. None have ever embrased the idea of labor, only of the thinking that they are the know all and see all, and the employees are the pawns in their game. It is indeed amazing how deep they all have their heads firmly planted in the sand.

 

[OldGuyinPA]

Not sand....just up their arse....

Permanent Brown Noses....

 

[Winglet]

For AA, CO, and NW, the primary and immediate problem is fuel costs. If fuel was at $35 a barrel, these companies would be showing a moderate profit. However, UAL and U suffer from years of management ineptitude and corportate averice, and nothing has changed to the present. Even fuel at $35 aren't going to save these companies. Funding management stupidity and fecklessness out of employee compensation isn't a business plan.

 

[Oliver Twist]

I feel I can speak for lots of folks here on this one issue. There is not now, nor has there been a management team at U in the last 20 years that has done anything right in my opinion. When I say right, I mean the issues that mattered, the big ones.

They didn't have their heads in the sand, they were burried under it. Hundreds of millions of dollars wasted with no, repeat, NO forward thinking. I for one had a discussion on here with Chris Chiames (when Chip M. asked for serious questions to take to MGT to be answered here) about rationalizing fares in 2002 or 2001. He came up with every reason in the book that it would not work. Now look at where U is, stuck with GO fares. Gee, maybe those MBA's aren't so smart afterall. They can't see the writing on the wall thats been there for years. Blame? In this case it begins at the top.

I thank God every day that I found new employment this year and don't have to listen to the dribble that spouts from these clowns. I pity poor Lakefield, talk about walking into a mind field with blinders on.

Most of all I feel for my friends who remain and can't get out. Thats why my anger is so ripe here.

 

[WestCoastGuy]

I pity poor Lakefield, talk about walking into a mind field with blinders on.

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A MIND field, or a MINE field? Either way, he's just passing time. But please, dont pity the man. He's here at the request of his buddy, ole Doc Boner, to pick up a few bucks and be the mouthpiece. The man has NO CLUE about whats going on. He just spouts off his Bravo Zulu's and lets Glass and his group run the show. Lakefield won't be around long. And neither will this company at this rate.

 

[Oliver Twist]

A MIND field, or a MINE field? Either way, he's just passing time. But please, dont pity the man. He's here at the request of his buddy, ole Doc Boner, to pick up a few bucks and be the mouthpiece. The man has NO CLUE about whats going on. He just spouts off his Bravo Zulu's and lets Glass and his group run the show. Lakefield won't be around long. And neither will this company at this rate.

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Opps! that was suppose to be "Mine" field... but hey, maybe the original is better.

 

[WestCoastGuy]

LOL..yeah, the MIND field at CCY is a vast wasteland.....

 

[Oliver Twist]

LOL..yeah, the MIND field at CCY is a vast wasteland.....

[post="229242"][/post]​

Just like a Mine Field.. a vast wasteland.

 

[WorldTraveler]

While management at both UA and US can be blamed for some of their current problems, it is pretty hard to pinpoint a single person to blame for any of their current problems. 9/11, aggressive LCCs, SARS, OPEC? about the only one of those three that can be dealt with by management is the LCCs. US' biggest blunder is not more aggressively fighting for its territory. Now everyone knows they can walk all over US. Not to rub salt in the wound but Delta has faced a very similar incursion of LCCs on the east coast and has been much more aggressive in fighting them off. AirTran has even pulled out of some of the cities in which they tried to compete against DL. Delta has had alot more tools at its disposal including regional jets which US employees wanted nowhere on the premises for years.
Don't forget also that the survival rate for airlines in bankruptcy has been very low for decades. Talk of the possibilty of UA and US finally failing isn't surprising in the context of what the industry has been through and seen over the past 26 years since deregulation.