Southwest jet’s front wheels ‘collapse’ at LaGuardia

[Glenn Quagmire]

salvaging that aircraft would seem to be a stretch, no?

Replacing all the damaged electronics will be more costly than the structural repair. I have repaired aircraft that had more damage from a tug collision to the nose. Our crew had it back in the air within 2 weeks.

This aircraft (the SWA LGA) also had nose cowl damage. I don't know if the fans suffered any damage or if they had a sudden stoppage.

 

[WorldTraveler]

it was indeed the value of the avionics that initiated by question..... and then the question is how old this aircraft is.

no one is jumping to any conclusions but as with any tangible object, there is a point where it is worth more to write it off vs repair it.

THAT is the part I don't know.

 

[xUT]

NTSB Press Release:
http://www.ntsb.gov/news/2013/130725b.html

 

[SharoninSAT]

NTSB Press Release:
http://www.ntsb.gov/...13/130725b.html

Thanks xUT for posting the NTSB link...
Good factual information!

 

[LD3]

WT, C'mon. Are you kidding? It can be salvaged (saved). It's just structural damage. I foresee this aircraft back in the air before the end of this year, as long as there is not a long term hold on the aircraft by the NTSB, DOT or FAA for some reason or another. BTW, none of us know the complete and true damage to the aircraft as of yet, so let's not jump to assumptions just yet.

Not following you on this one, first you say it can be salvaged, then you forsee it back in the air. Then you jump the fence... WT did not make an assumption... WT never kids around.. Point goes to WT.. ~

 

[Bob Owens]

Mechanics at LGA seem to think that it will be scrapped. The plane is sticking out of the Hangar because the tractor they use to get 737s in the DC-3 era hangar cant lift the nose high enough for the tail to clear the doors because there is no gear to hook it to. Kind of embarrassing for WN with everyone in the Terminal looking and saying "that's the aircraft". I think that their desire to get it out of there as quickly as possible may weigh in on the decision whether or not to fix it. I would imagine that AA is charging a premium for the Hangar as well. Could it be saved? Sure, its not that bad, crew did a good job and kept it on the Runways despite the bad touchdown. But this is what everyone at LGA sees. To the right is the runway. Sorry I had to shrink the file to get it to upload.

 

[Bob Owens]

Not following you on this one, first you say it can be salvaged, then you forsee it back in the air. Then you jump the fence... WT did not make an assumption... WT never kids around.. Point goes to WT.. ~

Latest rumor is they are fixing it.

 

[swamt]

Latest rumor is they are fixing it.

Bob, last we heard from upper management here in Dallas was they were going to scrap it. Salvaging what they can in parts. Not saying this is the final word as of yet. Things are still fluid, and I'm sure the numbers are still being thrown around.

 

[SharoninSAT]

NTSB Press Release:
http://www.ntsb.gov/...13/130725b.html

2nd NTSB Press Release:
http://www.ntsb.gov/...013/130806.html

 

[gizmo_sc]

A/C in question was delivered 10-11-1999 which puts it at 13.9 years old.

 

[SharoninSAT]

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Friction escalates in LGA air crash probe...

The July 22 accident at LaGuardia Airport, which resulted in more than a handful of injuries but no fatalities, underscores growing tension between experts at the National Transportation Safety Board, responsible for uncovering the causes of accidents, and regulators at the Federal Aviation Administration interested in swiftly punishing pilots or bringing civil-enforcement actions against airlines in the wake of a crash.​

http://online.wsj.co...thwest airlines

 

[WorldTraveler]

If the information that is released is incorrect and later has to be corrected, then there is a problem. Releasing ACCURATE information earlier than what was done in the past is not necessarily a bad thing.

The increase in passenger electronics and increased data points make it easier to get to the likely source of problems faster than was possible in the past.

 

[FWAAA]

Southwest has fired the captain who landed the plane on the nose gear:

http://www.businessw...ng-at-laguardia

 

[WorldTraveler]

which probably means there are more issues involved... they would not terminate a pilot before the NTSB finished their investigation solely based on what happened in the accident.

 

[Glenn Quagmire]

which probably means there are more issues involved... they would not terminate a pilot before the NTSB finished their investigation solely based on what happened in the accident.

They would if they found during the investigation, of which SWA is a party to, that a willful violation of company policy and safety rules occurred. Especially if this was not a first occurrence of similar behavior. It is my understanding that there was an interline Captain in the jump seat during the accident landing. I am quite sure all cockpit members were interviewed.

I do know that they would not keep a pilot on paid leave for the length of time it would take for a full report is issued by the NTSB.