Sign The Petition

[gtd]

Were collecting signatures of all United Mechanics and Related to stop our Teamster Representatives from negotiating our retirement into their hands. Read the petition and if you agree please sign it. http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/ibt-pension-grab

 

[gatemech]

The IBT needs to get the message that we don't want their pension. All the time I speak to people that thought they would get their old pension back if the IBT got voted in. Nothing but lies. Where are all the organizers? Shortly after the IBT got in at UA I saw one of our new business reps rolling his toolbox out the gate and loading it in a new truck. I believe that person and his followers pushed so hard to get the IBT in just for their own good. I never see any of these reps.

The IBT is nothing but a dues machine. I want then to stop pushing the pension and get us some better wages. Better medical & dental would be great. The workforce is aging and those things are important.

 

[gtd]

The IBT needs to get the message that we don't want their pension. All the time I speak to people that thought they would get their old pension back if the IBT got voted in. Nothing but lies. Where are all the organizers? Shortly after the IBT got in at UA I saw one of our new business reps rolling his toolbox out the gate and loading it in a new truck. I believe that person and his followers pushed so hard to get the IBT in just for their own good. I never see any of these reps.

The IBT is nothing but a dues machine. I want then to stop pushing the pension and get us some better wages. Better medical & dental would be great. The workforce is aging and those things are important.

We need to take back control.

 

[xUT]

Thanks for the laugh...

xUT

 

[tech2101]

Thanks for the laugh...

xUT

Welcome to the forum.

I also thought this was hilarious!

I think a button is in order for this campaign. :blink:

 

[Tim Thorpe]

I think I have an old "We Earned It We will Keep It" Paid Lunch button somewhere in my tool box. Will That work? Or how about the classic " Will Strike If Provoked" rattlesnake button. LOL

 

[gtd]

I think I have an old "We Earned It We will Keep It" Paid Lunch button somewhere in my tool box. Will That work? Or how about the classic " Will Strike If Provoked" rattlesnake button. LOL

You want to laugh at something? Look in the mirror for that's where the problem starts. It's either "it's not going to make a difference" or "I'll let someone else do it". We are our own worst enemy and that sir is why we have no respect. GT Davis

 

[gatemech]

I think I have an old "We Earned It We will Keep It" Paid Lunch button somewhere in my tool box. Will That work? Or how about the classic " Will Strike If Provoked" rattlesnake button. LOL

I remember all those buttons & t-shirts. I think the IAM did all that along with some chest beating.

The IBT is the third union for the mechanics since I have been there. They all talk a good game. Of the three the IBT is the worst. They charge more for dues and do less. They are useless.

I don't want them touching my pension. The petition may be a waste of time but it can't hurt.

 

[xUT]

Welcome to the forum.

I also thought this was hilarious!

I think a button is in order for this campaign. :blink:

h34r: No Comment...

 

[ThirdSeatHero]

You want to laugh at something? Look in the mirror for that's where the problem starts. It's either "it's not going to make a difference" or "I'll let someone else do it". We are our own worst enemy and that sir is why we have no respect. GT Davis

Agreed GT, we are our own worst enemy.

When our fellow mechanics won't even bother to educate themselves on the matter at hand, instead relying on the "pie-in-the-sky" promises of the now long gone IBT organizers.

For the life of me I cannot understand how anyone could possibly want to be apart of this pension scheme when proof of this failing plan is on the plans own website.

From the plans Actuarial Certification for 2009 dated April 3rd,2009


http://www.wctpension.org/whats_new/funding_status09.html

...For the WCT Plan, this projected PPA Funded Percentage as of January 1, 2009 is 84.7%, down from an actual Funded Percentage of 97.1% as ofJanuary 1, 2008 but above the 80% threshold.

Not only did the plan fall 12.4% in a single year, but it should be noted by every UAL mechanic that the January 1, 2009 84.7% figure was the result of an actuarial valuation done in January of 2008

I'm fairly certain that everyone knows what happened to the market from Jan 08' to the present.

This is an IBT SCAM plain and simple.

Anyone wonder why, after the IBT refused Mediation(which was called for in our CBA) that they suddenly have scheduled marathon negotiations with UAL for the first 6 weeks of 2010?

They're trying to cut a deal on the pension before the next Actuarial Certification is due. A report certain to show that this wonderful plan of theirs is in endangered status.

 

[tech2101]

We need to take back control.

Good luck GT. I sincerely mean it.

I know your heart is in the right place.

However, you and many others knew that the main goal of winning over your group from the AMFA was to take the pension. That is where they will make their most money. The dues is secondary.

I looked in the mirror back in August of '05 at NWA and made my choice.

 

[linejetmek]

Shortly after the IBT won the representation election Paul J. Stripling came through my work area (I'm looking at the business card he handed to me that day as I type this). One of the things brought up by his entourage was a pension plan through the IBT. Everyone in the room told them we would rather see a larger contribution to our 401k accounts rather than another Defined Benefit Plan.

We made that quite clear. Apparently Mr. Stripling and company need a reminder. You can write to him at:

Paul J. Stripling
200 E. Howard ST.
Des Plaines, IL
60018-5907

or phone him at 1-847-298-9999

The information above is taken directly from his business card.

 

[gatemech]

Someone tell me if I am wrong.

Since the IBT is not a democratic union like AMFA they can force the pension on us. Something like
using the term (in the best interest of the membership). Can this happen?????????

 

[linejetmek]

Someone tell me if I am wrong.

Since the IBT is not a democratic union like AMFA they can force the pension on us. Something like
using the term (in the best interest of the membership). Can this happen?????????

I do believe we vote on acceptance of the new contract. Now the question is, will they include the pension language so that we have to vote no to the entire contact to avoid the pension?

 

[gatemech]

I do believe we vote on acceptance of the new contract. Now the question is, will they include the pension language so that we have to vote no to the entire contact to avoid the pension?

I hate unions. The problem is that they are a necessary evil. I always support the union to some extent. This pension
thing is just wrong. If this gets shoved down my throat all support goes away along with part of my dues.

Do I sound bitter?