Niladelphia
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:huh: Anyone know the scale for West grades 24 and 26?
Salary grade Question
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Niladelphia
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Thanks for the info rjh 
Not enough that's for sure! Anyhow, 24 is around $26k and 33 is anywhere from about $31-33k. You should see some of the positions at this salary grade. I can't believe how low it is for how much work and responsibility is involved. I sware you could get double elsewhere for putting in that much work!
JAXPax
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Yes, and some of the more militant people on this board think that anybody in "management" at "HQ" should get no raises, make too much, should not get retention bonuses, etc.
Should I say negotiate collective bargaining. Did I leave out a word?
If managers were short sighted enough to base their careers on seniority alone, maybe they'd vote in a union to negotiate one. But then they'd never get the chance to put in 60 hour weeks, go above and beyond, fight their way up the ladder and maybe retire as a $400k per year SVP with lifetime travel benefits.
there you go
JAXPax
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Well if you want to stay in the same job your entire life and get a raise every year (unless your union votes it away, with or without your consent) simply for not getting fired and are happy with that level of achievement, then sure.... let's have management members vote in a CBA.
Barbell
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No thanks!
Now did I say any thing about a UNION just mention negotiating collectively.
The options exist to do either move up the company ladder or stay were you are and move up within your group. Go ask AL he was a teamster
Breath_of_Fresh_USAirways
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- Aug 27, 2005
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GRADE
24 starts at around $26K
25 starts at about $29K
26 " " " $33K
27 " " " $38K
Good Luck. Be sure to get as much as you can at the beginning -- because you'll never see it later -- only 3% every 18 months or so, if you're lucky...
One more thought most jobs grade 23-25 are not "Management" but what the West calls individual contributors. You are in the bonus pool and your raise is based on your performance review. But there really isn't much difference between say and Analyst or Clerk at 22 and one that is 23 except more pay. I keep hearing east people say they do not want to be "in Management" (a grade 23 or higher in the west)for job protection reasons and that is a false assumption. You can get laid off or fired just as easy as a grade 22 or 23 so you might as well make more money!
Breath_of_Fresh_USAirways
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Absolutely correct!
Grade 27 and higher are considered management -- not sure about a grade 26. But, then again, AWA station managers are grade 25...
When it comes to bonuses, if the "threshold" is hit for profit it goes something like this:
Individual contributors: 5 %
Supervisors: 6.5%
Managers: 8 %
or something like that...
You can be a grade 25 or 26, for example, and if you don't manage any people, you're considered an "individual contributor". And there's nothing fair about any of it. Just get as much as you can at the beginning -- even if you're promised more later -- because management and circumstances change and promises aren't kept. Welcome to the world of airlines.
And these aren't union jobs -- so nothing is a given and seniority does not matter -- in fact, you probably never want to be the highest paid in your department as you are then the easiest target in a lay-off.
Grade 27 and higher are considered management -- not sure about a grade 26. But, then again, AWA station managers are grade 25...
When it comes to bonuses, if the "threshold" is hit for profit it goes something like this:
Individual contributors: 5 %
Supervisors: 6.5%
Managers: 8 %
or something like that...
You can be a grade 25 or 26, for example, and if you don't manage any people, you're considered an "individual contributor". And there's nothing fair about any of it. Just get as much as you can at the beginning -- even if you're promised more later -- because management and circumstances change and promises aren't kept. Welcome to the world of airlines.
And these aren't union jobs -- so nothing is a given and seniority does not matter -- in fact, you probably never want to be the highest paid in your department as you are then the easiest target in a lay-off.
