Rumor: TWA Mechanics and Ramp Service getting Occ Senority Back?

[Runwaysticker]

Lots of ramp and some mechanics says its a done deal.

 

[bigjets]

No


https://www.iam141.org/docs/SLIAgreement.pdf

 

[Runwaysticker]

Bigjets that only applies to AA and US AMT, remember TWA was IAM, lets give you a example you was hired in 1988 by TWA you got 4 weeks of vacation right now the new AA will only have 1 sen. not the 4 we have now so now a 25 year guy  will loose vac weeks, don't think so they want 1 sen date the amount of time you have been a mechanic with TWA/AA

 

[Slopoke]

Lots of ramp and some mechanics says its a done deal.

 
 

Bigjets that only applies to AA and US AMT, remember TWA was IAM, lets give you a example you was hired in 1988 by TWA you got 4 weeks of vacation right now the new AA will only have 1 sen. not the 4 we have now so now a 25 year guy  will loose vac weeks, don't think so they want 1 sen date the amount of time you have been a mechanic with TWA/AA

 
 
Wishful thinking, ain't happening. Vacation is company time, which is date of hire.

 

[JFK Fleet Service]

That is the agreement the TWU and IAM came to regarding seniority.For *all* groups.The TWA guys will use their date of entry into the classification of their workgroup at AA.They aren't about to reopen the TWA seniority issue 14 years on.Even the CWA touched on it in their TA.
 
 
 
 

Bigjets that only applies to AA and US AMT, remember TWA was IAM, lets give you a example you was hired in 1988 by TWA you got 4 weeks of vacation right now the new AA will only have 1 sen. not the 4 we have now so now a 25 year guy  will loose vac weeks, don't think so they want 1 sen date the amount of time you have been a mechanic with TWA/AA

 

[MetalMover]

Lots of ramp and some mechanics says its a done deal.

Funny, no updates from the ASSociation on ANYTHING, but this is the only UPDATE that gets aired?

 

[MetalMover]

Bigjets that only applies to AA and US AMT, remember TWA was IAM, lets give you a example you was hired in 1988 by TWA you got 4 weeks of vacation right now the new AA will only have 1 sen. not the 4 we have now so now a 25 year guy  will loose vac weeks, don't think so they want 1 sen date the amount of time you have been a mechanic with TWA/AA

The new AA only wants ONE seniority? Says who? Vacation time is based on company longevity of which TWA was given. Kasher gave them occupational time,
Again a rumor to stir the pot.

 

[Runwaysticker]

Ok Kasher gave them their COMPANY time witch is good for VAC, that's it, all TWA employees got 4/10/2001 for Occ time, which as you know is use for the most important thing is WHAT SHIFT YOU GET AND AREA YOU WORK as in terminal or hanger. They made a LAW from the sad state of Missouri which says no more stapling on the bottom, if you go as far to make a LAW that just goes to show the we f++ked the TWA guys...........................

 

[Deleted member 14439]

Ok Kasher gave them their COMPANY time witch is good for VAC, that's it, all TWA employees got 4/10/2001 for Occ time, which as you know is use for the most important thing is WHAT SHIFT YOU GET AND AREA YOU WORK as in terminal or hanger. They made a LAW from the sad state of Missouri which says no more stapling on the bottom, if you go as far to make a LAW that just goes to show the we f++ked the TWA guys...........................

twa guys did not get screwed. They were hired on at AA as their company was being sold off in bankruptcy. AA acquired twa, it was not a merger. Let it go.

 

[700UW]

Ok Kasher gave them their COMPANY time witch is good for VAC, that's it, all TWA employees got 4/10/2001 for Occ time, which as you know is use for the most important thing is WHAT SHIFT YOU GET AND AREA YOU WORK as in terminal or hanger. They made a LAW from the sad state of Missouri which says no more stapling on the bottom, if you go as far to make a LAW that just goes to show the we f++ked the TWA guys...........................

Actually your not correct, it doesnt prevent stapling if both sides agree to it or its what the arbitrator rules.
 
Its a Federal Law, not a state law of MO.
 
The seniority is already decided, give up the pipe dreams already.

 

[Runwaysticker]

yes both sides agree? What make you think that anyone the side getting the shaft would ever agree to that?

 

[Runwaysticker]

Maybe you in Tulsa town would but us guys on the line never would if given the choice

 

[Kev3188]

Funny, no updates from the ASSociation on ANYTHING, but this is the only UPDATE that gets aired?

That's part of why I brought it up yesterday. When there's a lack of information, people usually try to fill the void...

 

[MetalMover]

Ok Kasher gave them their COMPANY time witch is good for VAC, that's it, all TWA employees got 4/10/2001 for Occ time, which as you know is use for the most important thing is WHAT SHIFT YOU GET AND AREA YOU WORK as in terminal or hanger. They made a LAW from the sad state of Missouri which says no more stapling on the bottom, if you go as far to make a LAW that just goes to show the we f++ked the TWA guys...........................

Obviously you are an ex TWAer who is spreading this rumor. What you fail to mention is that both the IAM and the TWU AGREED to binding arbitration. You say it wasn't fair, the AAers say it wasn't fair you got ANYTHING... It is what is. 
The arbitration process was created by the government so as NOT to clog the courts with labor issues.
It is binding, accept it. And if you think your ongoing lawsuit is going to produce the results you wish, good luck.
 
As I posted in another thread, the AWA pilots had their ORIGINAL SENIORITY AWARD UPHELD by a federal appeals court. The USAPA pilots did not accept that by forming a "new" bargaining agent.
The courts said the original award was BINDING and therefore STANDS.
The Kasher award is BINDING!

 

[Runwaysticker]

CLT is a big IAM station , which not to talk off topic but how the heck do we have 2 so called unions, Its coming from the local CLT IAM local check it out............