Question? How Does This Work...

[410OhOne]

Ok, as of NOV 1 AMR will haved pulled completely, yes completely out of STL and surrendered to the competition, ie. LUV. How does AMR profit or benefit by allowing hundreds of flights a day to be operated by these startup fly by night, non-union, non-maintenance having, corporations using our colors and brand ie. Trans States, Chataq, Corporate Air? Tell me is this not the same as Coca Cola saying hey we have a great product and recipe, branding position in the industry, but we would rather just give you the recipe and let you run with it with no control in place.

Another comparison if I may. McDonalds corporate stores versus McDonalds Non Corportate run stores is equal to AMR Eagle versus Trans States Eagle.

I am in no position to see the big picture, but please explain to me the details of allowing Trans States to operate all of the flights out of STL. How much of the revenue actually goes to AMR from these flights. I understand they feed ORD and DFW now, but couldnt AMR Eagle do that as well.

Naive,
410OhOne

 

[Wild Onion]

Because it's cheaper to run than Eagle.

 

[FWAAA]

American Airlines is not leaving STL, just cutting back substantially. AA will still fly dozens of mainline flights each day on AA airplanes. More flying is going to the American Connection contract carriers and American Eagle, but AA is not pulling out completely.

 

[410OhOne]

American Airlines is not leaving STL, just cutting back substantially. AA will still fly dozens of mainline flights each day on AA airplanes. More flying is going to the American Connection contract carriers and American Eagle, but AA is not pulling out completely.

So it is cheaper to park and give away our gates and our routes and allow a contract carrier to operate under our name. How far does this goes and when does it stop? Heck, lets just contract all our routes then.

 

[Cleared Direct]

American Airlines is not leaving STL, just cutting back substantially. AA will still fly dozens of mainline flights each day on AA airplanes. More flying is going to the American Connection contract carriers and American Eagle, but AA is not pulling out completely.

American Eagle will have only one flight to STL from LGA believe it or not. Other than AA, the rest of the AMR brand flying will be done by American Connection.

 

[Flyboy4u]

AA is the only carrier right now that is cutting back routes. Why? Ask the man at the helm? This is not good business sense. Why would one cutback flights at a time when this industry is slowly returning? B)

 

[Cleared Direct]

So it is cheaper to park and give away our gates and our routes and allow a contract carrier to operate under our name. How far does this goes and when does it stop? Heck, lets just contract all our routes then.

If it is cheaper, then that is exactly what AMR will do. Unfortunately it is happening throughout the industry. It is the biggest threat to airline labor groups at this point. It is called "brand management".

APA had one of the better scope clauses in the industry before the latest blunder by Darrah. He initially started contract negotiations with the #1 goal of capturing all AMR flying to be done by APA. In the end he not only gave up, but he allowed AMR to expand their total "commuter supplement" (so called feeders) to 110% of the narrow bodied fleet at AA. Simply unbelievable!

 

[AAmech]

AA is the only carrier right now that is cutting back routes. Why? Ask the man at the helm? This is not good business sense. Why would one cutback flights at a time when this industry is slowly returning? B)

Not true! AA is adding flights. 2004 will have at least a 4% increase and possibly more.

 

[AMFAMAN]

Not true! AA is adding flights. 2004 will have at least a 4% increase and possibly more.

Yeah and our commuters are growing at over 20% a year with no end in sight. Next up ORD-IAH, MIA-CVG....means AMT-RIF.

 

[wrx]

If someone built an RJ that could fly over the "pond" non-stop, AMR would be first in line to buy them up! 🙄