Possible Aircraft Order

[fltguymk]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304584004576416271006614358.html?ru=yahoo&mod=yahoo_hs

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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Report-American-Airlines-to-apf-3115180649.html?x=0&.v=2

A few more details. Looks like we were yanking Boeings chain! Will be very interesting to see how this all works out!

 

[Hopeful]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304584004576416271006614358.html?ru=yahoo&mod=yahoo_hs

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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Report-American-Airlines-to-apf-3115180649.html?x=0&.v=2

A few more details. Looks like we were yanking Boeings chain! Will be very interesting to see how this all works out!

There is another post recently started with more info.
According to the WSJ article, AA has reached a TA with Airbus, and is looking to Boeing for a counter-offer.

 

[Frank Szabo]

There is another post recently started with more info.
According to the WSJ article, AA has reached a TA with Airbus, and is looking to Boeing for a counter-offer.

Glad to hear someone got a TA out of the SOBs. They never learn, do they?

I'd love it if Boeing simply told them to take the Scarebus offer and stick it up there collective arse but, as most other things like this, that would require principles, something American business lost years ago.

 

[Veritas]

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You can read any WSJ article in full by accessing it through a Google link. In this case, go through this search results page; the first two links will take you to the complete version.

 

[Hopeful]

Glad to hear someone got a TA out of the SOBs. They never learn, do they?

I'd love it if Boeing simply told them to take the Scarebus offer and stick it up there collective arse but, as most other things like this, that would require principles, something American business lost years ago.

Potential 15 billion dollar deal,,,,,and they still want a zero cost contract.

 

[frontline]

How can Boeing possibly counter this? Airbus has a better product in this case, and I'm glad to see AA is smart enough to consider that. Boeing is just behind the curve on a new generation single aisle. The planes will pay for themselves in fuel savings if oil keeps going up (and it will).

 

[eolesen]

Airbus really has actually a better product? If you only read USA Today, that's the impression you might get.

What Airbus is offering isn't a new generation single aisle product. It's a new engine on an old product, and both Pratt and CFM know their bread is buttered on both sides, and won't withhold the LEAP-X from Boeing should Chicago decide it can be integrated on their wing.

Potential 15 billion dollar deal,,,,,and they still want a zero cost contract.

Yep. And any contract to buy airplanes has potential to be zero cost. Alaska's replacing of MD80's with 73NG's essentially paid for itself (zero cost?) when fuel spiked. Throw in the maintenance halo from a new airplane vs. one that's already in a cycle of C checks, and that $15B (over X years?) starts getting whittled away by savings in other area.

 

[Deleted member 17588]

Yep. And any contract to buy airplanes has potential to be zero cost. Alaska's replacing of MD80's with 73NG's essentially paid for itself (zero cost?) when fuel spiked. Throw in the maintenance halo from a new airplane vs. one that's already in a cycle of C checks, and that $15B (over X years?) starts getting whittled away by savings in other area.

Yep. And as sure as the snow melts in Spring there's ALWAYS an excuse that there's nothing left for us.

 

[TWU informer]

Well if it cost nothing to give management bonus awards, it cost nothing to buy new aircraft, and it cost nothing to get a new agreement with Labor, then why isn't everyone going into the domestic passenger carrier industry? I love it when the management sympathizers here have more answers to costly decisions than Bob Owens has reasons why we should be treated like Cargo Carriers. It is easy to see why we cannot get an agreement, because if both sides in negotiations are anywhere close to what takes place here, nobody is telling the truth and nobody is actually dealing in reality.