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[MiAAmi]

This is what AA does best. Piss money away then ask its employees for concessions. EGO bad management or both

Still bitter about concessions!? Yes it sucked! Not that I'm on managements side but they only asked once and we gave it to them. US, DL, UA, NW all came back to their employees for more. Pissing and moaning won't get you any sympathy here as we have all heard it 100 times.

 

[Bob Owens]

US, DL, UA, NW all came back to their employees for more.

Yes they did, in some cases they came back three times to try and get what the TWU gave AA in the first round.

 

[j7915]

Yes they did, in some cases they came back three times to try and get what the TWU gave AA in the first round.

Still bitter you didn't join management and reap all those rewards years ago? Or maybe you failed to go long on AMR when it was at $1.08, wish I had.

Bob look around you, the past is past. AA can't shrink itself into profitability, even without recalls planes are flying. Maybe you and other like minded folks should read the proxy statements a little closer. The corporate bennies are public knowledge if you bother to dig for them.

 

[TWU informer]

Still bitter you didn't join management and reap all those rewards years ago? Or maybe you failed to go long on AMR when it was at $1.08, wish I had.

We didn't have the benefit of insiders giving us the gory details like you TWU stooges who were buying stock on information provided by those that had signed the confidential agreements.

 

[Bob Owens]

Bob look around you, the past is past. AA can't shrink itself into profitability, even without recalls planes are flying. Maybe you and other like minded folks should read the proxy statements a little closer. The corporate bennies are public knowledge if you bother to dig for them.

There you go again, a so called union man parroting management. Its not past, its every shorted paycheck.

Well I suppose if I lived in Tulsa the cuts would have been easier to take, since after all the guys on the line, where it costs more to live took a bigger cut than you did. The guys who were forced into OSM positions are even better off than the guys in NY.

 

[TWU informer]

There you go again, a so called union man parroting management. Its not past, its every shorted paycheck.

Well I suppose if I lived in Tulsa the cuts would have been easier to take, since after all the guys on the line, where it costs more to live took a bigger cut than you did. The guys who were forced into OSM positions are even better off than the guys in NY.

Ease up on him a little Bob, it is j7915's and all the other TWU Officer's and so-called leader's first time in management, they need a little compassion as they transition from working man thoughts.

 

[Bob Owens]

Ease up on him a little Bob, it is j7915's and all the other TWU Officer's and so-called leader's first time in management, they need a little compassion as they transition from working man thoughts.

Crediting him with "thoughts" is more than generous.

 

[Bagbelt]

I would have loved to dump 10 grand on the stock while low, but since it took a dozen years between 2 classifications to top out, where was I or most people going to get the money? We got 6% over 6 years during the most profitable period in our history, The LEAP checks were even taken away.

 

[j7915]

Crediting him with "thoughts" is more than generous.

stop accusing someone you don't know of being a TWU/Management stooge, because you can't stand and don't want to believe the message.

Spend some more time reading the corp proxy statement, maybe then you would not be caught giving back negotiated benefits.

Why don't you look at the economy? AA is so far surviving, but go here: http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con...06032101133.htm.

You guys love to shoot messengers, which is why I prefer to stay anonymous. Got to deal with lots of folks every day; and further off topic, worry less about your neighbor's morals instead of your paycheck when you vote.

There you go again, a so called union man parroting management. Its not past, its every shorted paycheck.

Well I suppose if I lived in Tulsa the cuts would have been easier to take, since after all the guys on the line, where it costs more to live took a bigger cut than you did. The guys who were forced into OSM positions are even better off than the guys in NY.

To the guy who complained about lack of insider knowledge: I didn't have any either. My finance guy (no big deal I see him once per year for my IRA stuff) cautioned me to not even think about investing based on knowledge not available to either all of AA's employees and or the general public.

Bob, if I really, really, had any say, most maintenance on the lines would be in low cost areas, certainly not on the coasts. As to outsourcing, I don't know. Seems to me that there are few MROs that could efficiently absorb AA's fleet and retain flexibility, and without AMR breathing down their kneck 24/7. Which means AA would be running their operation at least for the short haul.

 

[Bob Owens]

stop accusing someone you don't know of being a TWU/Management stooge, because you can't stand and don't want to believe the message.

Spend some more time reading the corp proxy statement, maybe then you would not be caught giving back negotiated benefits.

Why don't you look at the economy? AA is so far surviving, but go here: http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con...06032101133.htm.

You guys love to shoot messengers, which is why I prefer to stay anonymous. Got to deal with lots of folks every day; and further off topic, worry less about your neighbor's morals instead of your paycheck when you vote.
To the guy who complained about lack of insider knowledge: I didn't have any either. My finance guy (no big deal I see him once per year for my IRA stuff) cautioned me to not even think about investing based on knowledge not available to either all of AA's employees and or the general public.

Bob, if I really, really, had any say, most maintenance on the lines would be in low cost areas, certainly not on the coasts. As to outsourcing, I don't know. Seems to me that there are few MROs that could efficiently absorb AA's fleet and retain flexibility, and without AMR breathing down their kneck 24/7. Which means AA would be running their operation at least for the short haul.

The fact is that the overall trend for this industry is expansion, not contraction.

Most businesses have adopted keeping low inventories of supplies, when they need things they get them shipped by air, Fed Ex, ups etc cant carry it all.

With an expanading industry that has become a critical part of commerce airline workers should be sitting in a comand position, not in full retreat. The reason why we are in full retreat is the faulty structure of unionism and the incompetant crroks that run the unions we do have.

 

[TIME FOR CHANGE]

Still bitter about concessions!? Yes it sucked! Not that I'm on managements side but they only asked once and we gave it to them. US, DL, UA, NW all came back to their employees for more. Pissing and moaning won't get you any sympathy here as we have all heard it 100 times.

I have to keep pissing and moaning. It helps to remind me what an arse rapeing we took. I then can adjust my productivity accordingly.

"they pretend to pay me so I pretend to work"