Msp Station Status

phllax

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So with the pulldown of PIT-MSP, the remaining service to PHL and CLT is returning to full mainline. I was under the impression that MSP had gone to Mainline Express status. If I am wrong, then my next sentence is moot. If indeed they are a mainline express classified, are they going to recall former mainline employees now that it's going back to pure mainline?
 
I don't recall that MSP was ever converted to Mainline Express status. It is good for all in the station that they haven't been downgraded to that pathetic level of pay.
 
phllax said:
So with the pulldown of PIT-MSP, the remaining service to PHL and CLT is returning to full mainline.
This is great news. I always felt bad for the poor folks stuck in the back of our full crj on the PHL-MSP flight for 3+ hrs. This needs to be mainline only. -Cape
 
IAH still has 4-5 Mainline CLT flights. I have heard that some of the PHL-IAH are to become Mainline at some point as well. I can't see why a large city such as IAH would be MDA only.
 
As much as I hate to think that we can only round up enough passengers in the PHL-IAH market for 4 E-170's a day, this may be a portent of the "PHL scheduled for domestic O & D".

Jim
 
phllax said:
From what it looks like, IAH may be the first station to go MDA status.
Maybe this is their new business plan. Convert most stations to that of MDA or Express status and keep mainline at only the west coast and hub stations. Pretty crafty. Get lower wages and eliminate maint and cleaners. No need to even sweat the contracts.
 
WestCoastGuy said:
Maybe this is their new business plan. Convert most stations to that of MDA or Express status and keep mainline at only the west coast and hub stations. Pretty crafty. Get lower wages and eliminate maint and cleaners. No need to even sweat the contracts.
Bingo, and give that man a cigar.

Some folks saw this coming.

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Note how the company implied expression would be a small station phenomenon.


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Guess not.
 
These IAH flights as well as some of the MKE-PHL ones seem to run full most of the time. One would think that if you are filling a 72 seat A/C, that an upgrade to a larger A/C would be the thing to do. If the loads were not that good, I could understand using the EMB-170's.
 
We just got the approach plates for MSP here at PSA. Doesn't mean we are going to fly there for sure, but it could mean something.
 
Huh...

So you are saying we could make a lot of profit flying a full E170, or a little profit/break even by flying a not full mainline aircraft, ummm, gee wonder which one we should go for... :rolleyes:

This is a great example of where the flexibility of a 90-100 seater would be perfect, still filling the plane on the heavier frequencies, and filling the 70 seater on the remainder of the day.

One thing to note, each flight is 70 passengers that did not fly on CAL :D
 
Rico said:
Huh...

So you are saying we could make a lot of profit flying a full E170, or a little profit/break even by flying a not full mainline aircraft, ummm, gee wonder which one we should go for... :rolleyes:

This is a great example of where the flexibility of a 90-100 seater would be perfect, still filling the plane on the heavier frequencies, and filling the 70 seater on the remainder of the day.

One thing to note, each flight is 70 passengers that did not fly on CAL :D
SWA turns consistent profits with load factors in the 60s.

If you're consistently putting 65 or 70 customers in a 70 seat plane then you're also almost certainly consistently missing the opportunity to sell a bunch more tickets.

Chasing load factor is self defeating.
 

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