Mechanics And Utility

[My World]

Man this site is going to get real boring once amfa finds out they lost.

 

[Decision 2004]

Man this site is going to get real boring once amfa finds out they lost.

Are the deceased going to be ruled valid voters by the NMB? <_<

 

[Checking it Out]

All members who are eligible to participate will be counted. Will their be a vote? I doubt it!!!!!!

 

[Buck]

You doubt it?

Why the change in position?

 

[Decision 2004]

As the card drive starts to wind down I want to express my concerns about the division that has been created! Whether it be the Line or Base we all are Brothers and Sisters. The AMFA organizers eat, sleep and dream AMFA! That is all they talk about!

It’s hard to have a decent conversation about anything else. The incidences at MCI and AFW are a prime example of the Brain washing that has been done! These aren’t going to be the same ones running the show. These are the same individuals who you work next to! Most aren’t interested in participating or they would be involved in the past and present. Most are one item concerns! If you take them aside they really don’t have a clue on how to Arbitrate or represent a member in a 29d case! And they really don’t want to learn. I can’t remember how many times over the last 6 years they have asked many of the current officers to run if AMFA was to get in!

Many of the organizers now have come to the realization that the drive is in its 12th hour and is thousands of cards short! The depression has set in and now you are hearing on a regular bases that we will get you next time! Does their have to be a next time? Why not just start participating in the process? Most know I have been writing on these forms for many years because I believe in the TWU! That is no secret! I have seen many changes and will see more to come! We the membership control the Union! I see this on a regular basis! We have the control to make our voice be heard by having open discussions at the Union Hall and on the floor! Motions are made to change on a regular basis some are excellent and others are rejected That is part of Democracy!

I ask that the TWU Brothers and Sisters welcome back the miss-guided members and ask them to participate in a rational manor for improving what they perceive as a lack of representation!

We are the only Union that has successfully worked to retain full overhaul capabilities! It is not going to be easy in the future! Outside influences are going to put a great strain on all of us! With every ones support we will overcome. I ask that you take off your shirts put on a regular one and start directing your efforts into improving the quality of life at AA and the TWU! It’s a shame that the hate and discontent you see on these individuals! A fellow Brother pointed out to me recently that the AMFA Organizers all have the same look! I started looking around and you know he was right! Why? Maybe because they eat, sleep and dream of something that can’t be achieved! Even Delle admitted this during several meetings conducted at USAir and others that in today’s environment this is not achievable!

 

[Decision 2004]

Since Amfa has decided not to talk about the card count, told their organizers to be quit and have censored the information. I thought I would give you an update based on information I have been told from key organizers of the 500 club.

Amfa started the card collections back in 1998. Many of the first signers on the latest drive were repeat customers. They do it out of habit. Since February of last year the third drive was started. The cards were sent in so the count went up quickly. Well many of them have expired. A committee was set up to resign those cards. Now here comes the first part of March. Members were upset about the concessionary contract. The signed cards averaged 20 a day. Now Amfa is spending additional time to get these cards resigned. If you take into account a portion is not being signed, Amfa elected to have the card update removed from the website instead of showing a declining card count.

Amfa has been averaging 7 cards a day since mid September. As the numbers showed on the site Amfa was at 8848. Well the number was distorted. Here comes a meeting in the first part of February with the organizers. Word gets out to the supporters that the count was shorter than what was announced. Amfa stepped up the pace and started sending out more mailings and sent the organizers out to push for more cards to be signed. This produced little results. So Amfa national sent a letter and a mailing. This produced about 100 cards. Still short Amfa decided to hold informational meetings at MCI figuring this may produce a few more cards. Here it is, the second day of the verification process from the national and Amfa is calling an informational meeting. This indicates they expect to be short.

Amfa organizers admitted last month the cards were short about 2000 from the numbers Amfa established. The original amount needed was about 10,500 in order to achieve 60%. This has been revised to 9500 and the 60% was has now been whittled down to 55%. Well the numbers have changed again and the valid cards are lower than the 8848. The numbers are closer to 7800 if you take into account the cards are still expiring at a rate of 7 per day Amfa established 16,000 thousand members as a threshold.

Amfa has to make a decision by Saturday. First, do they file with what they have, do they file with the knowledge each passing day produces a higher percentage of cards expiring or do they ask the organizers to go out and seek more cards? I feel if you hear an announcement this week they have decided to wait you will start hearing the standard slogans from past drives, One comes to mind “We will file by Easter!â€￾ I also expect they will not tell you the numbers they have! This is an attempt to suppress, in an effort to energize the rabbit. You can fully expect if they decline to file and seek more cards you can bet the 2000 is probably accurate! If Amfa is so open and democratic than why are they suppressing information? If they have nothing to hide than why have they opted to keep you in the dark?

If the Amfa organizers fail to respond with an update or divert attention you can bet this information is accurate!

Interesting history.

 

[Bob Owens]

Are the deceased going to be ruled valid voters by the NMB? <_<

Not at all. If that happens we will simply start the new drive, give the AGW our list so they do not duplicate cards, then both file at the same time in another year.

If your numbers are deemed correct then they only need around 5000 cards in total to file.

 

[Bill]

Man this site is going to get real boring once amfa finds out they lost.

Oh, don't be too sure My World. I'm sure we will be hearing them cry for quite sometime. I can hear it now.........FOUL PLAY......... AA, THE TWU AND THE NMB ARE ALL CORRUPT (on and on and on and on and on!!!). Kind of like they are doing now, but much, much, worse!!!




I can't wait!!!!!

 

[Bill]

Not at all. If that happens we will simply start the new drive, give the AGW our list so they do not duplicate cards, then both file at the same time in another year.

If your numbers are deemed correct then they only need around 5000 cards in total to file.

give the AGW our list


Hey Bob, are you sure that's legal???? You guys have a hard time figuring out what is legal and what's not!!

I tell you what, I'll find out for you okay!!! I would hate for you to get yourself into more trouble!!!!!

 

[Bob Owens]

give the AGW our list


Hey Bob, are you sure that's legal???? You guys have a hard time figuring out what is legal and what's not!!

I tell you what, I'll find out for you okay!!! I would hate for you to get yourself into more trouble!!!!!

If the TWU can give our names addresses and phone numbers to Insurance companies, survey companies and the AFL-CIO then AMFA most certainly can share such information with other organizations too.

 

[Hackman]

Oh, don't be too sure My World. I'm sure we will be hearing them cry for quite sometime. I can hear it now.........FOUL PLAY......... AA, THE TWU AND THE NMB ARE ALL CORRUPT (on and on and on and on and on!!!). Kind of like they are doing now, but much, much, worse!!!




I can't wait!!!!!

.....and how would you like your CROW served billy? RAW it is. :blink: :unsure:

 

[Raptor]

If the TWU can give our names addresses and phone numbers to Insurance companies, survey companies and the AFL-CIO then AMFA most certainly can share such information with other organizations too.

Good point I get more junk mail thanks to the TWU giving everybody my address than my trash man can handle. I have been trying to get off of the TWU and all their freiends mailing lists but have had no luck yet.

 

[My World]

Are the deceased going to be ruled valid voters by the NMB? <_<

Only the braindead will ruled valid for amfa's side. B)

 

[Rusty]

Only the braindead will ruled valid for amfa's side. B)

So your world, you are saying the mechanics and related across the U.S. are brain dead???
Very intelligent statement oh wordily one. BWHAAAHAAHA

 

[Decision 2004]

Only the braindead will ruled valid for amfa's side. B)

You have on several occasions now, desparaged the mechanics of the industry.

You must be either a baggage handler or a bus driver. Which is it?