Management...PLEASE Return our 5%.....

[PITbull]

With the news that the Saddam regime has fallen, and USA has commenced rebuilding and providing order in the region,......

With news that the troops are starting to return home....

With the news that bookings are rapidly increasing from three weeks ago according to Reuters report and U's bookings......

With the news that the United Code share is doing well and paying off better than expected....

With the legislation that passed in BOTH houses for the bail out of $2.8 Billion of FREE money to the airline industry because of the War Event.....which management did not expect this past December....

CAN MANGEMENT FIND SOME COMMON, HUMAN DECENCY AND DO THE RIGHT THING BY THE EMPLOYEES AND NOT TAKE OR COMMENCE WITH THE 5% PAY DEDUCTION FROM THE EMPLOYEES OF U?....

 

[PITbull]

Labor Relations VPs went on vacation this week.. for two weeks. Must be nice...

That's why they pm me and told me they were going to be busy the next couple weeks, but they would watch these boards. Found out yesterday, they've gone. That's why we have three new managers in Labor Relations to handle all the restructuring implementation, so that these VPs can go out on vacation.

I doubt they will respond to this... as I suspect our 5% will be applied to the purchasing of RJs so that we all can flow right into those jobs, and really starve to death.

Our MEC has requested to meet with the Labor Coalition to ask management/Dave's team for our money back, as this deferral (paycut) should NOT commence.

 

[pitguy]

I wonder if some enjoy watching others starve.

 

[Hula Girl]

So...flight attendants have to fly sick because they can't afford to be penalized and yet the VPs in Labor Relations have gone on vacation. Perhaps a reward paid for with the 5%? I just don't understand about the 5%. Loads are up. Planes are full. Management should do the right thing and not take the money. Oh wait, never mind. I just remembered what board I was on.

 

[NAPAUS]

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On 4/15/2003 8:49:36 PM PITbull wrote:


Labor Relations VPs went on vacation this week.. for two weeks. Must be nice...

That''s why they pm me and told me they were going to be busy the next couple weeks, but they would watch these boards. Found out yesterday, they''ve gone.  That''s why we have three new managers in Labor Relations to handle all the restructuring implementation, so that these VPs can go out on vacation. 

I doubt they will respond to this... as I suspect our 5% will be applied to the purchasing of RJs so that we all can flow right into those jobs, and really starve to death.

Our MEC has requested to meet with the Labor Coalition to ask management/Dave''s team  for our money back, as this deferral (paycut) should NOT commence.

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Im glad to hear our MEC and the labor coalition are requesting money back. This additional 5% has sent alot of our employees" over the edge". I have been working a second job for many years..after 22 years of flying..and glad i have the ability to get some extra income. BUT MANY of our employess dont have the luxury of time to have an extra job. Its time for Dave and his cronies to do what is right..Enough is enough.

 

[Walmartgreeter]

Nope. Not gonna happen. Everything CMD has said he could or might do, he has done...all of it bad. That 5% was gone the day the contracts were ratified. Who did not think we would invade Iraq? Stand by for more cuts, I am sure we well see 240 aircraft...after all CMD said he MIGHT have to do it. He will.

 

[REACC1]

Was there REALLY a manager of labor relations? It''s just so hard to believe.

 

[tadjr]

The National Terror Alert Level was lowered to YELLOW today. We''ll see what happens this week with more ships and planes leaving the Middle East and only limited pockets of resistence. Not much of a WAR anymore.

 

[Seatacus]

I wish I could get it back, but itis not going to happen. What would be their point in giving it back. We authorized it in our contracts. This is a free loan to them. Whether or not we are doing OK, or happy with our jobs I don''t think is a big concern to them. So a second income seems like our best bet for now.

 

[genejockey]

Dave should at least agree to reassess the pay defferal after 90 days or so.
As PitBull initially said, things have changed considerably in just a few weeks. What is the cost of jet fuel now? I know it has dropped significantly (anyone know?). Most importantly, US Airways is expected to receive approximately $206 million in federal aid. As far as I know, that is roughly twice the amount of the pay defferal on an annual basis. As of Tuesday April 15 MTD load factor = 71.7%. This coming week, loads will be consistantly in the 80''s on peak days. I am willing to bet April''s final load factor will be at least 76% compared to 74% for last year.

 

[firstamendment]

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On 4/15/2003 8:31:59 PM pitguy wrote:

I wonder if some enjoy watching others starve.

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Would you people stop being sooooo dramatic. I agree that as things settle down in Iraq and the economy turns, it would be great to get that 5% back, however please...enough with the poor starving suffering employee crap. If I can live in Manhattan on a flight attendant salary, one can make it in the ''burgh. It''s called a budget and living within your means.

Unfortunately, this way of dealing with finances has been passed down from management...save as little as possible and spend as much as possible. The problem is management can squeeze the money out of us, but we haven''t got that luxury.

All the "starvation " crap is no better than the way management overexaggerates and manipulates to get what they want.

So please, I do feel your pain...all 13.6% of it...but enough of the self pity.

 

[RowUnderDCA]

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On 4/17/2003 9:05:58 AM firstamendment wrote:

If I can live in Manhattan on a flight attendant salary, one can make it in the ''burgh. It''s called a budget and living within your means.

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I''m going on a temporary assignment in NYC, living in Midtown. I''ll be grateful to take any budget living advice you might have, particularly regarding: parking, bike storage/commuting, getting to JFK and LGA, cheap eats, cheap tickets, shopping secrets. That is, if you''re looking for something to do.

I''m excited about my summer stay.

 

[PITbull]

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On 4/16/2003 5:59:29 PM Seatacus wrote:

I wish I could get it back, but itis not going to happen. What would be their point in giving it back. We authorized it in our contracts. This is a free loan to them. Whether or not we are doing OK, or happy with our jobs I don't think is a big concern to them. So a second income seems like our best bet for now.

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Seatacus,

The 5% deferral was not to be some kind of loan for this management. It was soley for the purpose of any adverse effects from the war event on our airline, (reread your restructuring agreement from the winter). The taking of the 5% was premature, and knee jerk reaction by this management; an excuse to take this money. Now that the war is basically over, and there is proof by many reports and analyts that the bookings are increasing, there is NO excuse for this managment to keep this money. Unless, they want us to now pay for the RJs for this company WHICH IS NOT IN OUR RESTRUCTURING AGREEMENT FOR US TO PAY FOR PLANES.

I believe that every employee should "bring light" to this and write to the company as well as the media, and make it publically known what this management is doing and has done to the employees of U.

No one should rest until this 5% is resolved and DOES NOT COMMENCE AT THE END OF THE MONTH.

First Amendment,

This issue of 5% is not about WHO CAN AFFORD IT or NOT! This is about doing the right thing and honoring the language that is in the restructuring agreement. Dave said in his postal letter to all that they would evaluate this on a monthly basis. We expect him to do this, otherwise, it proves this management is NOT OF THEIR WORD! It is not good faith to take money from your employees for any other reason than why it was ratified.

THERE IS NO WAR EFFECT!

 

[Light Years]

Are you going to be in NYC on TDY? TDY is a nice paycheck...

 

[Slam&Click]

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On 4/17/2003 9:05:58 AM firstamendment wrote:

If I can live in Manhattan on a flight attendant salary, one can make it in the 'burgh. It's called a budget and living within your means.

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I've lived in Manhattan, but never on a flight attendant's salary. Do you have roommates? Do you live in a rent-controlled building? Do you have a walk-up or doorman? I don't want to be a doubting-Thomas, but I'm quite aware of the costs there -- and the costs of rent, houses, and transportation and the general costs of living within a two hour drive in any direction. I could never have survived NYC costs without my significant other's salary to carry the bulk of the load. When I was flying and single, it would have been impossible to survive there, unless I'd chosen to live in abject poverty. Sorry, budget or no -- NYC has never been cheap.