Have you ever tried to call Tech and get a placard for an autopilot without knowing which part of the autoland system is causing a problem? I can tell from your post that you haven't. Dumbass's trying to do that is what started the whole MD-80 autopilot fisaco a few years back to begain with. As far as placards go, we don't make the rules, we just live by them. We're mechanics. Our job is to fix them not send them back out broken but we don't have have that choice on a deferable item if we're out of time, just like every other station in the system. Do what you can with the time available, shingle it and away it goes.
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Have you ever tried to call Tech and get a placard for an autopilot without knowing which part of the autoland system is causing a problem? I can tell from your post that you haven't. Dumbass's trying to do that is what started the whole MD-80 autopilot fisaco a few years back to begain with. As far as placards go, we don't make the rules, we just live by them. We're mechanics. Our job is to fix them not send them back out broken but we don't have have that choice on a deferable item if we're out of time, just like every other station in the system. Do what you can with the time available, shingle it and away it goes.
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Thrown under the International Bus?
I just took notice from your post that AA always seems to have lay-offs and rifs every 10 yrs. almost like clock work. Per your post you mention the 92-93 Rif's, then there was the 2003 conssesions, and now the 2012 restructuring plan. Does anyone have previous dates to the 92-93? Is there a patturn here, or is it very coincidental. Seems odd to me.
besides probly loosing my job. it looks like aa dont even want to give a chance to come back if we want. they want to decrease recall from 10 years to 5 years. really nice of them isnt it all we given up and they want to cut our chance of getting called back in half.
MD'S are getting old. Not a lot you can do on a 50 minute turn. If it's an easy fix you fix it, if it's deferable you placard it and if not it goes to the hanger. Give us two hour turns and placards would go down considerably.
texasreb
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You are right. They want to remove as many topped out people as they can. In five years they can hire newbies at a much lower rate. Once again screwed by an at&t phone salesman.
odie01
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Your union has been screwing you for years, and now you want to blame it on the company for doing their job.
It is called a cyclic industry for a reason.
I would challenge anyone to put together a ten-year plan for any company in this business that not take onto account down cycles.
strikeforce
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The company just put in front of you the death sentence for AMT's. As horrible a term sheet you can possibly expect from your worst enemy, and the only thing your worried about is "why they're eliminating avionics"?? Are you guys for real???
This term sheet is an "I HATE MY EMPLOYEES" term sheet. If I was you, I would be looking hard at finding another job....even if that means flipping burgers at Mickey D's!!!!!
You have A&P Mechanics who don't do Avionics?
In this day, every AMT should be able to maintain an airplane, not one portion of it. This is not the military.
Line guys at NWA (at most stations) were doing everything required to repair aircraft that arrived and departed...what ever it happened to be.
Unplug a lav, change a brake, replace an FMC and do the CAT III test, adjust a tray table, replace a side stick controller on an Airbus...
You get the picture.
I am very surprised to hear that AA is/was not the same way.
The Phantom
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I HATE MY EMPLOYEES. Are you kidding???
it has nothing to do with the employees. It is all about making huge changes in the way that the work is done. I'm not saying that they really know what they are doing but if we are all the same title we can all be used the same way. No matter what the situation. Sounds good on paper but lets see how it works.
If you all are not preparing for other jobs then quit bitching about this one. No one has really stood up before and I don't see many standing together now either.
strikeforce
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I'm still waiting on the company to explain to me how they will raise $1B in New revenue?????
Horton isn't taking a pay cut......are you kidding me dude. How long have you been following airline bankruptcies. Corporate America doesn't take pay cuts, WE do!! And, even if they did, they're still making millions.....I don't believe they will be hurting or trying to figure out where their childrens next meal is coming from or how they will pay the mortgage.
Overspeed
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Overview of Management and Support Staff Plans
Target Cost Savings: $165 million per year (20% of Management and Support Staff’s total costs)
Workforce reduction: Approximately 1,400 management and support staff employees
Additional changes in the upcoming weeks
