How many lavatories are offered on all aircraft? Most are just two, right? One up front, and One back? Or, are there more on the longer range 737? Sorry to ask, but I find it hard to believe the newer a/c would not accomadate at least 3 on the longer flights. :huh:
Lavatories on WN
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ORDmech
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SW doesnt have any 800 or 900's. Just 700's, 300 and 600's.
phllax
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If he's referring to CO's 800's & 900's, the 900's have 4, some 800's have 4 but most are now going back down to 3.
I believe SW has 2 on all series.
I believe SW has 2 on all series.
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I never said they did. The 737-800's I worked on had 2 lavs. I'm not sure about the -900's. Besides it all depends on the class configuration. I've worked on 757's that 4 and 5 lavs, depends on config.
What carrier's 737's and 757's do you/have you worked on? and when?
jimntx
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Southwest does not have "transcons" per se--if you mean coast-to-coast flights (thus the term transcontinental--across the continent). The close thing they have to a transcon is a BWI-LAS flight. It is an 5.5 hour flight, but not a transcon. I commute on Southwest a good bit, and I have never heard one of their passengers mention the number of lavs as a factor in flying or not flying Southwest.
P.S. Their flight attendants don't use the lavs as a place to hide from the passengers. They have this odd concept (and corporate policy) that when you are being paid to be a flight attendant, you should be out in the aisle attending to the passengers on that flight. Imagine! No place to spread the latest AA-US merger rumor.
AA has 3 lavs on all its 737s--only one more than WN. I won't say it's wildly convenient for the passengers, but since you can't charge for the "lav seat"--that pesky FAA won't let you seat an oversold there
--I doubt you are going to see ANY airline using up sellable floor space on the a/c with more lavs.ORDmech
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ATA's, Ryan Int'l, Thomas Cook, why?
LAX-BWI? That is not considered a Transcon flight? HMM. Whether or not there is 1 stop. The crews probably run them all the way.Southwest does not have "transcons" per se--if you mean coast-to-coast flights (thus the term transcontinental--across the continent). The close thing they have to a transcon is a BWI-LAS flight. It is an 5.5 hour flight, but not a transcon. I commute on Southwest a good bit, and I have never heard one of their passengers mention the number of lavs as a factor in flying or not flying Southwest.
P.S. Their flight attendants don't use the lavs as a place to hide from the passengers. They have this odd concept (and corporate policy) that when you are being paid to be a flight attendant, you should be out in the aisle attending to the passengers on that flight. Imagine! No place to spread the latest AA-US merger rumor.
AA has 3 lavs on all its 737s--only one more than WN. I won't say it's wildly convenient for the passengers, but since you can't charge for the "lav seat"--that pesky FAA won't let you seat an oversold there
Did I ever mention "privacy" meaning Flight Attendants hide in the Lavatories?! NO. You have a way of twisting everything around. I use to commute on WN too, out of STL-PHX, thank you. They ran the old 300 series on the flights. I thought there recent a/c came with 3 lavatories?? That is why I posted this thread.
Also, US, we have a galley and a curtain that closes away from the lavatories. That is what I meant by some privacy. 🙄
jimntx
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There has never been a WN a/c that had a curtain over the galley. Why would they start now? They're famous for not coming up with 47 different configurations of the same a/c the way the rest of us do.
And, as I fly for AA and used to fly US Airways a lot for business, I KNOW there are f/as on our airlines who hide themselves in the lav or the galley to avoid providing service. And, you know it too.
If you want to get snarky, you're the one who asked the question in the first place, and your legacy upbringing is showing if you think that WN is going to change their a/c configurations just because out of all their flights every day, they have 2 (two, deux, dos, zwei) BWI-LAS flights that are longer than their normal stage lengths. They also don't change their "catering" for those two flights.
It's one of the reasons that they are a true low-cost carrier. They see no reason to mess with success.
And, as I fly for AA and used to fly US Airways a lot for business, I KNOW there are f/as on our airlines who hide themselves in the lav or the galley to avoid providing service. And, you know it too.
If you want to get snarky, you're the one who asked the question in the first place, and your legacy upbringing is showing if you think that WN is going to change their a/c configurations just because out of all their flights every day, they have 2 (two, deux, dos, zwei) BWI-LAS flights that are longer than their normal stage lengths. They also don't change their "catering" for those two flights.
It's one of the reasons that they are a true low-cost carrier. They see no reason to mess with success.
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jimntx
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First off, I said BWI-LAS--which is their longest nonstop. But, if you put in BWI-LAX on Southwest's website, you will get 21 listings. None are nonstops, and only 7 of those do NOT require a change of a/c at some intermediate stop--an opportunity to use a real lav on the ground.
But, the problem only seems to exist in your mind and opinion. As I said, I've never heard one of WN's passengers complain about the number of lavs. And, I've never heard of anyone choosing or refusing to fly any airline because of the number of lavs on the plane.
Not tryin to hate, but we still do a SAN - BWI twice a day. :blink:
That's the royal "we". Little too long for this guy hired at the 1:10 minute airline. 🙄
(This is what I tell my ex-Hughes/NWA friend who's now at SWA)
That's the royal "we". Little too long for this guy hired at the 1:10 minute airline. 🙄
(This is what I tell my ex-Hughes/NWA friend who's now at SWA)
jimntx
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Sorry 'bout that. I forgot about SAN-BWI. It doesn't change the fact that the problem only seems to exist for the OP. WN's passengers don't seem to care how many lavs there are. What they seem to care about are reasonable fares and nice people--and the WN people are THE nicest in the U.S. airline business.
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