I do not support much of what Tempe does, except ordering 787's but I will be honest I have never had the grey bag break nor have I ever had one leak. Now, many of times I have none boarded with catering but, really I have not had these issues......
It just goes to show you...
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The film on the bags is gross, and yet I see people putting ice in them - ICK.
Bags are at least half the size, so we are using 4 bags (doubled) to pick up the same amount of trash as 1 white bag.
When the bag breaks the liquid runs down into my shoes. ICK, I bring one pair of work shoes and worked 2 14 hour duty days in WET shoes. GROSS. My shoes now need replaced as they did not dry out and are destroyed. Sorry, I am not paying for that and have turned it into the company.
I just cannot believe that some manufacturer out there does not make a good quality bag that has a price that is lower than the old bag.
I am all for saving a buck, but I am also for shopping for a quality product at a lower cost.
Bags are at least half the size, so we are using 4 bags (doubled) to pick up the same amount of trash as 1 white bag.
When the bag breaks the liquid runs down into my shoes. ICK, I bring one pair of work shoes and worked 2 14 hour duty days in WET shoes. GROSS. My shoes now need replaced as they did not dry out and are destroyed. Sorry, I am not paying for that and have turned it into the company.
I just cannot believe that some manufacturer out there does not make a good quality bag that has a price that is lower than the old bag.
I am all for saving a buck, but I am also for shopping for a quality product at a lower cost.
2clippedwings
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The white bags always did the trick. Strong, waterproof, handled with pre-punched holes. This IS important as flight attendants who are asked to pick up cabin trash (oops-refuse) now more than ever before, a good quality garbage bag will be in our hands a good part of the day. Garbage juice is disgusting.
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Speaking of trash......
Did anyone hear of the stupid "test" that they are doing on the 757?
It seems that they are "blocking" off the trash bins in the back so as not to blow slides!!!!!
WE DON'T HAVE ROOM AS IT IT!!!!
I say if this is the case....just put them on the lav floors with the leaky bags and...what a mess that will be to clean up!!!!!
DOES ANYONE IN TEMPE HAVE A CLUE.
Why are they trying to re-invent the wheel.
Talk about trying to "f" everything up!!!!
Did anyone hear of the stupid "test" that they are doing on the 757?
It seems that they are "blocking" off the trash bins in the back so as not to blow slides!!!!!
WE DON'T HAVE ROOM AS IT IT!!!!
I say if this is the case....just put them on the lav floors with the leaky bags and...what a mess that will be to clean up!!!!!
DOES ANYONE IN TEMPE HAVE A CLUE.
Why are they trying to re-invent the wheel.
Talk about trying to "f" everything up!!!!
Prince of PAWOBs
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It's a simple analogy that applies to the bags. Check this out:
I like soup. Tomato soup, in fact Campbell's Tomato Soup. It's the greatest tomato soup ever made. It's best with a sandwich or a salad, it has an even consistency and a rich flavor. It cooks well with a bit of stirring and an eye on the heat. It's also more expensive than the store brands that are merchandised next to it.
Okay, so I decide one day to try the store brand (I've tried several) because it's less expensive and perhaps some consumer reporter on a local news station says it's produced at the same cannery that produces "high quality, name brand soup". Now I'm skeptical, so I only buy one so I can try it out.
Cut to the chase: The soup is terrible. It tastes like pimentos and chalk. It cooks like pudding, and my lunch becomes an ordeal. So, what do I do? I never buy it again, and I go back to my beloved Campbell's Tomato Soup. Why? Simple: It's a better soup, and it's worth what I pay for it.
So, if individual consumers are selective and are willing to experiment first before commiting to products, you would think that corporations would use the same method to judge products they use on aircraft. It shouldn't be reserved for seats and desserts. It should apply to garbage bags, toilet tissue, pretzels, carpets, et al.
High Quality and Low Cost do not have to be diametrically opposed. There is a happy medium where both cross. It's Economics 101, folks.
I like soup. Tomato soup, in fact Campbell's Tomato Soup. It's the greatest tomato soup ever made. It's best with a sandwich or a salad, it has an even consistency and a rich flavor. It cooks well with a bit of stirring and an eye on the heat. It's also more expensive than the store brands that are merchandised next to it.
Okay, so I decide one day to try the store brand (I've tried several) because it's less expensive and perhaps some consumer reporter on a local news station says it's produced at the same cannery that produces "high quality, name brand soup". Now I'm skeptical, so I only buy one so I can try it out.
Cut to the chase: The soup is terrible. It tastes like pimentos and chalk. It cooks like pudding, and my lunch becomes an ordeal. So, what do I do? I never buy it again, and I go back to my beloved Campbell's Tomato Soup. Why? Simple: It's a better soup, and it's worth what I pay for it.
So, if individual consumers are selective and are willing to experiment first before commiting to products, you would think that corporations would use the same method to judge products they use on aircraft. It shouldn't be reserved for seats and desserts. It should apply to garbage bags, toilet tissue, pretzels, carpets, et al.
High Quality and Low Cost do not have to be diametrically opposed. There is a happy medium where both cross. It's Economics 101, folks.
Gotta love the FA's... they go to Crew News Sessions with the CEO right in front of them. They can ask him anything: grill him on the stalled contract, inquire about how he says that his "comp" package is inline with those at the other majors while his employees are not (and he does not want them to be), ask him to tell us exactly what Sherri Shamblin does, etc, and we WHINE ABOUT TRASH BAGS.
I bet he laughed all the way home. 🙄
I bet he laughed all the way home. 🙄
IMisstheAladdinTrays
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The bags are awful....but I think the point was, to give us the PROPER tools for our job.
I realize what the point was, it just makes me laugh that trash bags and manifests were the focus, and incited such a passionate response from the FA's. Frankly, I could care less about the trash bags or the manifest. I might've asked a few more difficult question of Mr Parker, like if that 200,000 annual trash bag savings is being reinvested in the labor contracts, or why they cannot bring the HP stewardesses up to parity with East with some sort of side letter, etc .... That would do immediate wonders for morale and employee relations, much more than bringing the white trash bags back... :huh:
IMisstheAladdinTrays
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It all tracks back to: The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten!
We should not let them off the hook for ANY bad decision. There have been so many...and the meeting only lasted an hour. This Trash Bag thing is just the latest one.
Exactly. I could live with the stupid trash bags if that $200,000 was reinvested in the product, or the employees.
IMisstheAladdinTrays
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I think this whole "rob Peter to pay Paul" stuff is B/S. We should have a decent contract, and decent Trash Bags. The standards should not be dropped anywhere!
Agree, they need to reinvest in the product, and their employees, but if they are going to look for cost savings going forward, I really don't care about the trash bags. If it allows the FC or Y product to be enhanced or whatever, yippee. Maybe they should have changed the trash bags way back when they started their cost cutting spree; something else of higher importance might've remained....
IMisstheAladdinTrays
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Uhh huh...NOT!
IMisstheAladdinTrays
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Stop...you know THEY read this board.
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