This whining from the east bases is getting old, real fast. You have a post on trash bags? Phx based fa's have had the grey bags for over 10 years, no real tears or drips to speak of..get over yourselves. manifest issues? admit they are long and cumbersome, but better ones are on the way from what I heard. Can't put ice on top of the cart? Again..get over it. cups fall over? not phx based. no closets? worked with it for 19 years. Won't serve the new pie? Big fricking deal!!! it's a piece of pie...desert! So it's called four points pie, big deal?!?!? Theres not much difference when you say "would you like cheesecake?" and "would you like four points pie?" dont see the difference. You guys are losers.