IAM Mech. & related thread

[airplanes4sale]

yes i understand that, but these new hire people have never paid anything including iniation fees and not 1 cent to the IAM. i think the minimum that anyone has to pay is around $8 every 2 weeks and they pay nothing. {please correct me if i am wrong on this} and they are still allowing these people to vote.

 

[lithuanian]

When was any paying member of IAM told the Beck law was in the union paper. This is shady.

 

[700UW]

It is not a law, it is a Court Decision, and it is published once a year in the IAM Journal, if you dont read your Journal then I guess you wont see it, that is all the Court Decision requires them to do to inform the membership of the Beck vs CWA Court Case.

New hires dont pay initiation fees or dues till they pass the 60 day mark.

I know for M&R it only reduced the dues about $8 a month at one point.

And is it worth $8 a month to give up all your rights?

Especially since dues are tax deductable.

You have to pay full dues and be a member in good standing in order to vote, those who are dues objectors, non-members or who are more than 60 days in arrears are not allowed to vote.

 

[skinvalve]

If and when we do vote be sure to follow the directions. DO NOT make any comments or post graffito on the ballot. This may cause your vote to be voided.

 

[700UW]

Ratification Schedule

 

[PayParity]

Link

Under Federal law employees cannot be required to join a union or maintain membership in a union in order to retain their jobs Under certain conditions the law permits a union and an employer to enter into a union security agreement 1.1.1 requiring employees to pay uniform periodic dues and initiation fees. However, employees who are not union members can object to the use of their payments for certain purposes and can only be required to pay their share of union costs relating to collective bargaining contract administration and grievance adjustment.

If you do not want to pay that portion of dues or fees used to support activities not related to collective bargaining, contract administration, or grievance adjustment, you are entitled to an appropriate reduction in your payment If you believe that you have been required to pay dues or fees used in part to support activities not related to collective bargaining contract administration or grievance adjustment you may be 1.1.1 entitled to a refund and to an appropriate reduction in future payments.

The final Beck rule requires that federal contractors post notification of their employees’ Beck rights “in conspicuous places in and about [their] plants and offices, including all places where notices to employees are customarily posted.â€￾ Basically, the notice is to inform employees that they cannot be required to join a union and that, even when a union-security agreement requires employees to pay dues and fees to a union, employees who are not union members can only be required to pay their share of union costs relating to certain activities. Further, the notice generally describes the remedies for violations of these rights as well as contact information for employees who wish to make further inquiries regarding their rights.

The Beck rule is generally applicable to all federal contractors. However, the rule does exempt certain classifications of contracts, including those resulting from solicitations issued before April 18, 2001. Additionally, the final rule exempts nonunion contractors and contractors with fewer than 15 employees. The nonunion exemption applies to contractor establishments or construction worksites “where no union has been formally recognized by the prime contractor,â€￾ even if subcontractors on the same worksite are represented by a union. Further, the rule is not applicable to contractor establishments or worksites in states that forbid enforcement of union security agreements (right-to-work states). Additionally, the rule exempts contracts in an amount less than the $100,000 simplified acquisition threshold.

 

[PayParity]

Ratification Schedule

What does results mean when they say "After the vote has been certified, we will post the results."?

Does it mean they will post the results as in the numbers at each station or the result at each station or the total result (with or without the numbers)?

Or will the result be they are confused and there will be a second vote?

 

[700UW]

usually the votes are counted at each station, the total results released then all the ballots are sent to MCI for the district trustees to count and verify.

Ask your GC for further clarification.

 

[Rogue Rat]

It is not a law, it is a Court Decision, and it is published once a year in the IAM Journal, if you dont read your Journal then I guess you wont see it, that is all the Court Decision requires them to do to inform the membership of the Beck vs CWA Court Case.

New hires dont pay initiation fees or dues till they pass the 60 day mark.

I know for M&R it only reduced the dues about $8 a month at one point.

And is it worth $8 a month to give up all your rights?

Especially since dues are tax deductable.

You have to pay full dues and be a member in good standing in order to vote, those who are dues objectors, non-members or who are more than 60 days in arrears are not allowed to vote.

Every penny

 

[700UW]

Every penny?

Then dont complain as you cant vote on your officers, reps, CBA or a strike.

 

[Rogue Rat]

Neither can you since you don't work for US anymore.

 

[700UW]

Nope I dont, but I have family and friends, and I am making more money where I work now then I did when I left US.

 

[airplanes4sale]

It is not a law, it is a Court Decision, and it is published once a year in the IAM Journal, if you dont read your Journal then I guess you wont see it, that is all the Court Decision requires them to do to inform the membership of the Beck vs CWA Court Case.

New hires dont pay initiation fees or dues till they pass the 60 day mark.

I know for M&R it only reduced the dues about $8 a month at one point.

And is it worth $8 a month to give up all your rights?

Especially since dues are tax deductable.

You have to pay full dues and be a member in good standing in order to vote, those who are dues objectors, non-members or who are more than 60 days in arrears are not allowed to vote.

I understand about the reduced union dues and that you don't have the right to vote. I also know that they don't have to pay anything till they are done thier probation period, but what i am trying to say is that these mechanics long past thier probation period and some are already working on thier second year of service with usairways are being aloud to vote on this contract and our answer to why this is happening from our AGC Tony Giamarco is because they "said so" and if we would like to file a complaint feel free to do so. and i say once again they are fully aware of this problem and the union does not care what we think and if you don't believe me call Tony Giamarco and ask him and you will get the surprise of your life as far as the union is concerned. so before you trust the IAM with any of your money just check this information out for yourself. it will be a very eye opening experience

 

[Planemx]

Nope I dont, but I have family and friends, and I am making more money where I work now then I did when I left US.

That is not hard to do.....US pays squat.

 

[Rogue Rat]

Not hard at all. Utility and stock clerks didn't get paid as much as fleet.