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On 6/19/2003 10
30 PM rampguy wrote:
BTW, your above scenerio is seriously flawed. You forget that if the "NO's" had won out then those jobs you mentioned + many many more would be gone FOREVER. Even fewer left working and working for even less.
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And what gives you the divine ability to know the future?
The fact is that USAIR and UAL were in a lot worse shape than AA because for 20 years we have underbid them by accepting concessions that their workers would not. We have been the scabs of the industry for twenty years, dragging everyone else down with us. Our concessions basically allowed AA to get outsourcing prices in house, and that was prior to the most recent round.
Despite that, those airlines are still there.
Who needs the threat of Foreign or third party when the TWU is willing to underbid anybody? From B-scale, C-scale to "you've got to meet the number" the TWU/ATD has been the leader at ruining what used to be a great industry to work in.
Why would they do that? Numbers. Over the last twenty years, despite giving away some jobs overall AMR/TWU membership has more than tripled. So even with lower salaries the total dues increased. ATD officers are not accountable to the members who they sell out. They get to tell Sonny, Hey look at how our membership has grown! As far as the top guys who are all making well into the six figures are concerned the ATD is doing a great job. As they push through massive concessions for the members their pay and benifits are unaffected. You would think that they should at least "share the pain" like they insisted that management does. The excuse is that they represent workers at many carriers so their pay should not be affected by the misfortune of any one group, however they should get credit for any raises that are put through. Its easy for them to distance themselves from the members because they are not accountable to them.
The TWU/ATD represents the lowest paid flight attendants-SWA, so if SWA gets a raise, so will the officers, there is no mechanism in place to cut the pay of ATD officers, just to raise them. Apparently if they are able to get any one group a raise, then they get a raise. So even though they pushed through massive concessions on the 30,000 AA TWU members, in an amont exceeding 25% if the SWA flight attendants get a 10% raise, so can the ATD officers.
The fact is there is no accountability in this union at the level where the decisions are made.
If you dont think that you have been scamed then you are seriously out of touch.
Things must change.
Those who make the decisions must be accountable to the members. If the Union can not be changed then the members must change Unions.
-Without accountability there is no representation.
-Without accountability there is no Democracy.
-Without accountability there is no union, just a self serving organization that takes our money.
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