How Will Us Fight Swa In Phl?

[robbedagain]

Just a curious thing but How Will US defend the PHL Hub? I guessing that they will
use the 50 seat RJs and put mainline jets on cross country flights while SWA uses all B-737s and fill them up and make a ton of dough! Also will US ever get back to making the money that they made back in the 90s?

 

[AM49AAA]

If the are smart they will roll the hub and add capacity. Instead of 5 banks every 2 hours of 80 departures they should run 10 banks of 50 every hour adding about 100 flights a day. Connection times may increase but not signifigantly. Aircraft utilization would go up with a steady flow of departures and arrivals avoiding ATC bottle necks and long taxis and ramp constraints(getting them in the air and producing revenue). It also would prevent quick turns from LUV by allowing them to operate flights between the banks. They can use a combination of increased utilization of mainline to add mainline flights and new MDA, and PSA RJ's to increase frequencies on lower load flights. This would seem to make sense but we will have to wait and see what UAIR does.

 

[dashflyer]

Here's an easier way: make all the express aircraft decline the use of runway 17/35 and 8/26. That will back PHL up in a baaaaaaddddddd way.

I'm not advocating this, but I just thought I'd throw it out there.

 

[A320 Driver]

Here's an easier way: make all the express aircraft decline the use of runway 17/35 and 8/26. That will back PHL up in a baaaaaaddddddd way.

I'm not advocating this, but I just thought I'd throw it out there.

Going through PHL takes 10 minutes off my life. You trying to raise it to 15?

A320 Driver

 

[dashflyer]

Nahhhh, just trying to give SWA a chance to spend some quality time in the city of brothely love!!

 

[ringmaruf]

Here's an easier way: make all the express aircraft decline the use of runway 17/35 and 8/26. That will back PHL up in a baaaaaaddddddd way.

I'm not advocating this, but I just thought I'd throw it out there.

That's actually exactly what I think they should do. Throw every plane they can at PHL, Beech 1900's, whatever. Fly 700 flights a day through the place. Instead of 45-minute delays in the rain, "US 1262, you're number 37 for departure", make it 3-hour delays, all the time, "WN 738, you're number 87 for departure." Make the delays so bad that WN flees PHL to ABE or someplace. Guerilla warfare.

Cuz it's clear that they're sure not going to be able to compete any other way.

 

[the turtle]

what makes you think those SW coyboys won't use 35 and 26???

There's no CITGO gas station off the end of the runway....

 

[michael707767]

The best way for U to fight SW in PHL will be to add more flights. Use the RJs and new EMB-170s to add a ton of flights. This will provide better service for your customers and make PHL a much more congested airport, which will hurt SWs ability to make quick turns and make it less attractive to them.

 

[ClueByFour]

Here's an easier way: make all the express aircraft decline the use of runway 17/35 and 8/26. That will back PHL up in a baaaaaaddddddd way.

I'm not advocating this, but I just thought I'd throw it out there.

Going through PHL takes 10 minutes off my life. You trying to raise it to 15?

Don't you mean that 2 or 3 holding legs over PHL take 15 minutes off your life?

*duck*

 

[phllax]

Hey Turtle,

It was a Chevron station they stopped to fill up at BUR, not Citgo.

I guess if their flight 90 comes to town we should make them stop at any one of the bridges for ice?

 

[MarkMyWords]

The rolling PHL hub will definilty benefit us tremendously. I would think that a part of our competitive response will have to be to match them on price, but beat them on service. Offer the same price but a better product. Maintain the first class cabin as an incentivce to our most frequent fliers and offer reasonably priced upgrades off of business type fares. Survey or customers to see what would make them chose to fly us over WN if price was equal.

The first things I would start with as a competitive respose would be:
Price, Performance, Product and Service.

 

[wings396]

How about this one....since SWA chose PHL over ABE, maybe we could move the PHL hub up to ABE........

 

[N513AU]

Just a curious thing but How Will US defend the PHL Hub? I guessing that they will
use the 50 seat RJs and put mainline jets on cross country flights while SWA uses all B-737s and fill them up and make a ton of dough! Also will US ever get back to making the money that they made back in the 90s?

The same winning strategy that we used in MCO, TPA, BWI, DAY and every other city we used to dominate.....



RUN AWAY!

 

[Dea Certe]

MarkMyWords is talking sense, we need to focus on Price, Product and the delivery of the product.It can't be that hard, we've heard and seen some good ideas. Now here's the rub; can we implement them? Frankly, I like the idea of the smaller cans or 6 oz bottles of water along with a "nibble" of some sort, like pretzels or crackers, maybe even raisons or dry fruits. Customers like these things and they feel they are having a choice. Since we have loads of shelf place, it would be easy to double provision.,These items are cost efficient and have a long shelf life. It should be looked into

Bottom line is: Our customer are just happy to see a smiling face and a willing attitude. I'd like to test this items and record thier responces. See what they like the most and go from there.

Who's in charge of that department?

Dea

 

[deelmakur]

Southwest has already been attracted to this market through its analysis of the company business plan. In rank order, PHL, which has all the congestion, weather, and saturation problems which WN normally avoids, could not possibly have been next on the list of new markets. This is about collapsing the so called recovery plan, which they evidently have determined is flawed. Deliver a body blow at the core of the turnaround, and hope you collapse the place. At that point, you open every major airport on the East Coast. Successful businesses rarely depart from winning formulas. When they do, it means they have a very specific goal. This is a departure from pattern on the part of WN. They smell blood. Management has crafted its plan based on its belief the competition would react in a particular way. They don't appear to be. It is fairly straightforward. If CCY was wrong, they simply change course. To do so, however, requires that they admit, at least to themselves, the possibilitly they may have been wrong. I'm guessing the folks in Texas don't think they can bring themselves to do that.