How Are Things In Philadelphia

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ELP_WN_Psgr

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Just got a private message on how WN's PHL flights were doing today.

I will cut and paste it here and maybe my benefactor will be kind enough to update us a little later:

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what would be nice to know is what the loads were like.

Bookings look pretty decent.....from what an outsider can determine by checking website availability. MDW-PHL this coming Fri shows the afternoon and evening flight completely sold out.

I expect PHL to do fine.



Ask and ye shall receive....I just copied this directly from my duplicate post on A.net. Looks like PHL is hopping.....already.

Here is what I was able to find by poking around in the flight attendant scheduling system. After the city pair and flight number, the first number is the passenger load, the second is the aircraft capacity.

PHL-MCO #1080... 128/137
MCO-PHL #985... 134/137
PHL-MDW #327... 120/137
MDW-PHL #877... 41/137
PHL-TPA #723... 120/137
TPA-PHL #1638... 127/137
PHL-PVD #1638... 137/137
LAS-PHL #422... 130/137
PHL-MDW #741... 119/137
PHL-MCO #1101... 131/137

This is just a quick snapshot of today's loads and I'm sure there are some lookie-loo non-revs and cheapo fare hunters in the mix but still not too shabby for the first day. I'll keep watching the flights as the day progresses and try to pass on an update.
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This is what I could consolidate from various flight trackers etc etc.

Things were pretty good til the evening weather gnawed on them a bit.

inbound to PHL:

WN 877 MDW arrival sked 1135 actual 1117 18 early
WN 1233 MDW arrival sked 1650 actual 1715 25 late
WN 879 MDW arrival sked 2235 projected arrival 2250 1:15 late wx
WN 422 LAS arrival sked 1505 actual 1456 09 early
WN 985 MCO arrival sked 1225 actual 1213 12 early
WN 643 MCO arrival sked 1745 actual 1734 11 early
WN 628 MCO arrival sked 2225 projected 2257 32 late
WN 2075 PHX arrival sked 2245 projected 2336 51 late
WN 2953 PVD arrival sked 1140 actual 1133 07 early
WN 978 PVD arrival sked 1620 actual 1607 13 early
WN 777 PVD arrival sked 1830 actual 1914 16 early
WN 1508 PVD arrival sked 2015 actual 1956 19 early
WN 1638 TPA arrival sked 1255 actual 1244 11 early

outbound from PHL (shown are arrival times at destination)

WN 777 LAS arrival sked 2140 projected 2120 (20 min early)
WN 1080 MCO arrival sked 0930 actual 0920 10 early
WN 1101 MCO arrival sked 1450 actual 1427 23 early
WN 978 MCO arrival sked 1920 actual 1905 15 early
WN 2953 PHX arrival sked 1430 actual 1400 30 early
WN 1638 PVD arrival sked 1425 actual 1428 03 late
WN 422 PVD arrival sked 1640 actual 1638 02 early
WN 1233 PVD arrival sked 1820 actual 1836 16 late
WN 2294 PVD arrival sked 2155 projected 2248 53 late
WN 741 MDW arrival sked 0805 actual 0750 15 early
WN 327 MDW arrival sked 1410 actual 1355 15 early
WN 1165 MDW arrival sked 1930 diverted to CLE WX departed CLE projected MDW arrival 2134 (2:04 late)
WN 723 TPA arrival sked 1000 actual 0940 20 early
 
did they lose power to their jetways and have to walk the pax across the ramp to the planes?
 
Here is a summary of Philadelphia's first day of scheduled service by the numbers. I will give you all the outbounds then all the inbounds. The info will include flight number/city pair/pax load/A/C capacity and then the out gate/off ground/on ground/in gate times where available.(all times are central) At the time of this post a couple of flights are airborne so some info is not available and 1 flight departed PHL and diverted to CLE due to WX in MDW and another PHL inbound is delayed on the gate in MDW. I pulled the numbers from the flight attendant crew sked system. Since this system determines what we are paid, I assume(hope) the numbers are correct. Enjoy!

OUTBOUNDS

#741 PHL-MDW 119/137
0550-0600-0740-0750....15 early at the gate

#1080 PHL-MCO 128/137
0600-0616-0814-0820 ....long taxi out...10 early at the gate

#723 PHL-TPA 120/137
0620-0631-0837-0840...20 early at the gate

#2953 PHL-PHX 132/137
1105-1120-1550-1600...long taxi out....30 early at the gate

#1101 PHL-MCO 131/137
1115-1125-1320-1327....23 early at the gate

#327 PHL-MDW 120/137
1155-1208-1350-1355....15 early at the gate


#1638 PHL-PVD 137/137
1220-1235-1323-1328....long taxi out...3 late at the gate

#422 PHL-PVD 117/137
1430-1446-1534-1538....2 early at the gate

#978 PHL-MCO 130/137
1545-1600-1756-1805....15 early at the gate


#1233 PHL-PVD 44/137
1635-1650-1733-1736....long taxi out...16 late at the gate

#1165 PHL-MDW 65/137
1710-1800...loooonnng taxi...diverted to CLE due to WX in MDW?

#777 PHL-LAS 120/137
1800-1828-enroute....20 early

#2294 PHL-PVD 42/137

1950-2115-in range to PVD. 1 hr 25 min taxi out Yikes!!


All in all...not too bad a day. Obviously WX had an impact later in the day but most flights arrived early. I will submit the inbound flight info as a separate post.
 
And all that dosen't take in effect the fact PHL had ground stops until at least 2200 PHL time due to t-storms. Isn't it fun. No place to run and no where to taxi.
 
Okay...here are the Inbound numbers:

Again the info is arranged as follows...flight number, city pair, pax on board, A/C capacity

off gate/off ground/on ground/in gate. All times are central

INBOUNDS


#877 MDW-PHL 41/137
0835-0845-1012-1017...18 early at the gate


#2953 PVD-PHL 105/137
0925-0935-1030-1033...7 early at the gate

#985 MCO-PHL 134/137
0855-0905-1110-1113....12 early at the gate

#1638 TPA-PHL 127/137
0925-0934-1140-1144....11 early at the gate

#422 LAS-PHL 130/137
0920-0930-1352-1356....9 early at the gate

#978 PVD-PHL 36/137
1405-1412-1502-1507....13 early at the gate

#1233 MDW-PHL 131/137
1345-1422-1610-1615....25 late at the gate

#643 MCO-PHL 127/137
1410-1426-1629-1634....12 early at the gate

#777 PVD-PHL 27/137
1615-1620-1709-1714....16 early at the gate

#1508 PVD-PHL 42/137
1800-1805-xxxx-1856....19 early at the gate

#628 MCO-PHL 82/137
1954-2007-enroute on-time

#879 MDW-PHL Delayed in MDW

#2075 PHX-PHL 112/137
1820-1834--enroute...50 min late out of PHX


Again, decent loads and when WX did not interfere flights were early. Note the short inbound taxi times in PHL.
 
Short taxi times inbound in PHL means long taxi times outbound. It's just a bad set-up for the airport. You either have to taxi across an active runway coming or going. It's not the best for the amount of traffic in PHL.
 
Remember, this weather is only May, wait until the real T-storm season starts and see how hight your taxi and gate hold time climb! Welcome to the City of Brother Love, please take 95South back to BWI.
 
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Is it just me or does anyone think it unseemly that USAirways employees and/or fans would chortle with glee that Southwest took a few delays due to weather....that they would actually be ECSTATIC that there were some pretty nasty weather delays. Yes, they had an impact on WN's flights in the evening. HOWEVER, they also impaired USAirways' operation. But even more noteworthy, they HURT both airlines' passengers.

It's pretty bad when folks are willing to be happy about delays which hurt their ownselves and their customers just so their competitor feels a little pain.

I would remind USAirways' meteorological storm-wishers that although PHL might take it on the chin a little bit worse than some other places, the other stations where WN operates experience nasty weather from time to time.

TStrms in FL. When the lightening begins a lot of things on the ramp stop. Tornadoes in OKC, TUL, MCI, and LBB (Toto, I don't think we're in Kansas anymore....we're not, the airport is in Missouri.) Folks said when WN first started expanding to BWI, MDW, CLE, DTW etc etc that they'd never be able to handle the snow.

Will bad weather and PHL operations annoy WN. Probably. Will it be aggravating enough for them to take their planes and put them someplace else. No.
 
ELP_WN_Psgr said:
Is it just me or does anyone think it unseemly that USAirways employees and/or fans would chortle with glee that Southwest took a few delays due to weather....
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Yes, that IS a bit odd.

Not as odd as your bizarre love for a friggin' CORPORATION though, that you spend countless hours here defending it from enemies both real and perceived.

WN is just an airline. It shouldn't be the center of your life!
 
ELP_WN_Psgr said:
Is it just me or does anyone think it unseemly that USAirways employees and/or fans would chortle with glee that Southwest took a few delays due to weather....that they would actually be ECSTATIC that there were some pretty nasty weather delays.
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Just as unseemly as some WN posters on the US board p+$$ing their pants with glee over the total demise of US. I guess both companies have some people that could use some tact lessons.
I personally dont want WN to have a bad PHL day cause its going to be h^!! for us in a big way when they do.
 
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