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I have heard recent rumors of 10 A-300's being grounded soon.
Can anyone confirm this information?
Thanks
Can anyone confirm this information?
Thanks
Grounding Of A-300's
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LiveInAHotel
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I haven't heard if this is true or not. AA's plan is to replace all A-300's with 777's and the new 7E7 over the next few years. I'm sure that's now on hold due to AMR not making the dollar these days!Decision 2004 said:
coolflyingfool
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I'd love to see AA be the launch for the B7E7 for USA customers!
Good plan. I can't wait to see AA's solution to how to money flying 777s the two hours between Port-Au-Prince and Miami.LiveInAHotel said:I haven't heard if this is true or not. AA's plan is to replace all A-300's with 777's and the new 7E7 over the next few years. I'm sure that's now on hold due to AMR not making the dollar these days!
Until a suitable replacement for the A300 is found, it is not going anywhere. The A300 is the only widebody aircraft capable of flying very short distances with lots of passengers and cargo at a nice profit. The 7E7 proposes to offer similar capabilities, and, if it does, it is a logical replacement. If not, well, the A300 is still in production.
goingboeing
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I don't know about the rumor for parking the A-300's but it is a very good idea.Any time you can reduce fleet types and still operate your schedule you are money ahead.
Besides,the vertical stabilizer problem has really never been resolved with a re-design.
Besides,the vertical stabilizer problem has really never been resolved with a re-design.
LiveInAHotel
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Makes you wonder what really happened doesn't it?goingboeing said:
coolflyingfool
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How old are the A300s that AA has flying? For what it is forecast to do and haul, it would appear that the B7E7 might me a little better because it would give AA more flexibility with the a/c. Just my thoughts......
coolflyingfool
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Thanks for the info. I had thought, for some unknown reason, that all of AA's A300s were some of the first of the line A300s.
A common misunderstanding. A lot of people make the mistake of thinking that AA's A-300s are ex-Eastern, (wasn't Eastern the launch customer?). AA bought the A-300s to serve Latin America prior to the demise of Eastern, and AA acquired no planes from Eastern when it went belly-up.coolflyingfool said:
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The EAL and oklder A300's are the B4 model with a 3 man cockpit. AA has the A300-600R with a 2 man cockpit.
lpbrian
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The main reason they bought A-300's was politics. AA was expanding in Europe and routes to Paris were a high priority, so they split the order between the 767-300 and the A-300. It may have been a wise move, as a previous post noted, the A-300 is well suited to carrying lots of people and cargo over short distances. EAL came to the same conclusion earlier.
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A TWU Union Official told me that this rumor is true. Only he said 8 to be grounded this fall instead of the 10 I first heard about.
coolflyingfool
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I was under the impression that the A300s were from EA. Don't know how and why I had that in my head, but that thought is gone now.
AA was a launch customer for the A300-600R. This was an advanced derivative of the A300 based on the A310-300, Airbus's 767-300 cpmpetitor. Two man cockpit, winglets & longer range were part of the attraction. AA used his plane from BOS/JFK-LHR, a market it was never intended for. The reason was the withdrawal of the MD-11's and the expansion in the Pacific of routes like ORD-NRT. At one time many JFK-LHR were MD-11's but as that fleet was moved so were 767-300ER's & the A300's were called to LHR. 777's of course saved the day and the A300 went back to the Latin & Caribean market. A300's certain have a colorful & diverse history at AA. From Lima to LHR.
