Gays not welcome

[delldude]

Your belief would be incorrect.

 
How many white guys serve in a Chinese restaurant?

 

[eolesen]

How many white guys serve in a Chinese restaurant?

I've actually seen it once or twice. A good family friend's daughter worked the counter in our favorite place in Arlington Heights when she was still in high school.

Most are family businesses, so it's usually the kids and cousins working the dining room and cash register. More and more, though, the guys working in the kitchen are Hispanic...

 

[SparrowHawk]

NO! My "belief" is not incorrect. It's my belief, end of story. The fact that my belief may violate Political Correctness or certain laws is yet another topic.
 
Jimmy Carter's Lt. Governor closed his restaurant because he was being forced to serve people of color. Something that violated his personal belief.
 
Difference Tree, Difference.

 

[700UW]

What about the case where the guy sued Hooters as they wouldnt hire him to serve?

 

[Ms Tree]

NO! My "belief" is not incorrect. It's my belief, end of story. The fact that my belief may violate Political Correctness or certain laws is yet another topic.
 
Jimmy Carter's Lt. Governor closed his restaurant because he was being forced to serve people of color. Something that violated his personal belief.
 
Difference Tree, Difference.

No, your belief is wrong.  I can believe that the earth is the center of the universe.  I was not commenting on whether or not it was your belief.  Just stated that that your belief was wring in that it violates the law.  The same would hold true if I believed that the earth was the center of the universe.

 

[SparrowHawk]

No, your belief is wrong.  I can believe that the earth is the center of the universe.  I was not commenting on whether or not it was your belief.  Just stated that that your belief was wring in that it violates the law.  The same would hold true if I believed that the earth was the center of the universe.

OK, then your belief that there is no God is equally wrong.  Lot's of beliefs violate the law. Some "Believe" that sex between children and adults is "Normal and Loving". The legality is not  in question and their belief remains the same despite incarceration, castration and prison beat downs.

 

[Ms Tree]

OK, then your belief that there is no God is equally wrong.  Lot's of beliefs violate the law. Some "Believe" that sex between children and adults is "Normal and Loving". The legality is not  in question and their belief remains the same despite incarceration, castration and prison beat downs.

Can you prove it?  Show me God.
 
Beliefs cannot violate the law.  If is only a belief.  I can believe that all "x" should be killed.  Not a violation of the law.  SHould I act on those beliefs then we have an issue.
 
Somethings can be proven some cannot.  Your belief that you can serve who ever you want can be proven false by looking at the law.  You may have the opinion that the law is wrong but your belief that you can do as you chose is incorrect.  They can believe that is wrong or right all they want.  If they believe they can act on their belief without legal repercussions then they are wrong.
 
If you believe you should be able to deny service to who ever you want then that is your right to believe that.  If you believe you have the right to deny service then you are wrong.  You cannot.
 
The legality is the only thing that is in question as far as I am concerned.  I do not care what people believe.  I only care about their actions and if they violate the law.

 

[AdAstraPerAspera]

If the guys were getting touchy-feely in the booth, then the owner seems to have handled it appropriately. He didn't call them out for their behavior during the meal or raise a scene.Sounds to me like they're trying to make a story about discrimination, and it's turning out to be as simple as being called out by someone who expected his clientele to behave like respectable adults in his establishment, and not a couple of horny teenagers who couldn't keep their hands/feet off each other while eating a meal.

But a double standard exists between heterosexual and homosexual PDA. You know a couple of men giving eachother a rather innocent kiss could be looked upon far more harshly than the oft-tolerated make out sesh between an opposite sex couple... To pretend otherwise is being diliberately specious

 

[eolesen]

You have no idea how horny teenagers or hetero PDA's have been treated under similar circumstances, and neither do I.

From the description of the owner, I doubt it's tolerated regardless who is involved.

 

[Ms Tree]

You have no idea how horny teenagers or hetero PDA's have been treated under similar circumstances, and neither do I.

From the description of the owner, I doubt it's tolerated regardless who is involved.

OH horse crap.  No one gives a hetero couple a second look if they hold hands or kiss hello/goodbye.  Same does not apply for homosexuals.  You're deluded if you think otherwise.  TV shows have shown heteros kissing all the time.  When same sex do it on TV you would think it threatens national security.  Look at all the shows that "family research' has tried to ban.  

 

[SparrowHawk]

Beliefs xan not violate the law? Really? Perhaps that is true in Libtardia. Not in the real world. Actions can not violate the law. Look at any Neo-Nazi website, their beliefs often advocate the extermination of Jews. Yet their sites are up and running. They end up in jail when their beliefs turn into actions.
 
I can say that Homosexuality is a Sin against God until I'm blue in the face with no problems. Deny them their Liberty to live as they xhoose? NOPE! Poop for brains Obama hasn't made thinking illegal just yet.

 

[Ms Tree]

Beliefs xan not violate the law? Really? Perhaps that is true in Libtardia. Not in the real world. Actions can not violate the law. Look at any Neo-Nazi website, their beliefs often advocate the extermination of Jews. Yet their sites are up and running. They end up in jail when their beliefs turn into actions.
 
I can say that Homosexuality is a Sin against God until I'm blue in the face with no problems. Deny them their Liberty to live as they xhoose? NOPE! Poop for brains Obama hasn't made thinking illegal just yet.

 
 
You really need to go back and read what I wrote.  Beliefs cannot violate the law.  If someone incites actions based on words or actions that is an entirely different situation.  The COTUS guarantees free speech which is exactly why the KKK, skin heads and who ever else can spew their venom with impunity.  And that is as it should be.  If someone acts on their beliefs then it becomes a matter of law.  
 
It would appear we are in agreement on that issue.  Which still has nothing to do with your original comment that you believe a business can deny service to whom ever they want.  That belief is wrong as far as the law is concerned.  You may believe that is what it should be and that is perfectly fine.  That is not how it is.
 
That was my point.  What you believe is different from what the law allows.  The radical right is working on it though.

 

[eolesen]

Certainly, beliefs can and often do violate the law... there are still a few willing to stand on their principles and risk the consequences, and/or know that law enforcement won't act unless provoked.

Today, it's estimated that between 1% and 2% of Utah citizens are involved in polygamy. That's clearly in violation of Federal and state law, yet law enforcement looks the other way unless there are other laws being broken (e.g. age of consent and/or child endangerment).

You also have so-called sanctuary cities who place their beliefs ahead of our immigration laws.

Heck, it took 10 years of civil disobedience to exempt the Amish from paying into Social Security and Medicare.

 

[737823]

OH horse crap.  No one gives a hetero couple a second look if they hold hands or kiss hello/goodbye.  Same does not apply for homosexuals.  You're deluded if you think otherwise.  TV shows have shown heteros kissing all the time.  When same sex do it on TV you would think it threatens national security.  Look at all the shows that "family research' has tried to ban.  

 
Indeed:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O7IW1CP0jA
 
Josh

 

[Ms Tree]

Certainly, beliefs can and often do violate the law... there are still a few willing to stand on their principles and risk the consequences, and/or know that law enforcement won't act unless provoked.Today, it's estimated that between 1% and 2% of Utah citizens are involved in polygamy. That's clearly in violation of Federal and state law, yet law enforcement looks the other way unless there are other laws being broken (e.g. age of consent and/or child endangerment).You also have so-called sanctuary cities who place their beliefs ahead of our immigration laws.Heck, it took 10 years of civil disobedience to exempt the Amish from paying into Social Security and Medicare.

Please give me an example a belief that violates the law.