Furloughed Us F/a's To Possibly Fly For Hp

[Light Years]

How many would come back?

US sent 200 call back letters out and from what I've heard less than 50 came back to work.

[post="294130"][/post]​

Keep in mind at the time MAA was not being sold and everyone wanted to stay there where the pay was not much different, and you had a choice of bases as well as a block, not to mention much better morale. Nobody wanted to go to LGA.

I think they will get about 150-200... there are some MAA west coast commuters and many more who are willing to move. There's probably some, but not many regular furloughees who are out there who would do it too. The majority won't commute that far though and will just wait.

It all depends what happens with MAA and how quickly... MAA actually pays more than HP and the F/As have thier seniority.

I don't see how anyone could see this negatively... it would be a wonderful thing. The US furloughees, particularly the MAA folks, get a chance to keep working until thier US recall, no poor new hires come to HP just to be furloughed, HP gets some awesome F/As and the beginning of a positive culture intregration, and no HP F/A loses seniority.

FINALLY something that makes sense.

 

[cltflyguy]

"Filling of America West vacancies:
Our position is that if America West wishes to hire more flight attendants, US Airways on furlough would be given first priority, however they would be at the bottom of the list below our last flight attendant hired and would stay there throughout the fence. After the fence they would stay at the bottom and would have to leave the base, then transfer back at a future date once we were operating as one airline."

Copied from the AW AFA site.

For more information please read the complete update.

[post="294163"][/post]​

I bet atleast 95% of US furloughees will pass on that one if given the chance
to do it. Unless they just have no job already or nothing lined up, i don't see anyone jumping in on this.....especially if its true about leaving and then
transfering back in. Thats to much crap to go through. Course now
that oil is at $70....we all may be in trouble down the road. <_<

 

[Light Years]

Well, almost 50% of them are in the division right now and about to lose thier job. If they want to fly, it's better than starting over somewhere else... they always have that US sen number for down the road. This forum seems to have a disproportionate amount of MAA or furloughed F/As, and the poll seems to indicate alot of interest.

It also depends on the training situation. As I understand it HP currently requires F/As to pay for thier own accomodations for training. If that's how they do it for the furloughess, then they won't get anyone but the tiny handful who already live in PHX.

 

[Optimist]

It also depends on the training situation. As I understand it HP currently requires F/As to pay for thier own accomodations for training. If that's how they do it for the furloughess, then they won't get anyone but the tiny handful who already live in PHX.

[post="294229"][/post]​

Flight Attendant gets $20 training pay per day for 8 weeks!

 

[xoxo]

I wonder if the time over at AWA for a furloughed f/a would be counted in for longevity for pay perposes once they get back to original "US" on the east coast? Anyone questioned that yet? Because we dont have it at the EMB-Division.(not yet) We have been flying around for a year and half and do not get it.

 

[PITbull]

I wonder if the time over at AWA for a furloughed f/a would be counted in for longevity for pay perposes once they get back to original "US" on the east coast? Anyone questioned that yet? Because we dont have it at the EMB-Division.(not yet) We have been flying around for a year and half and do not get it.

[post="294272"][/post]​

Definitely been discussed.

 

[Light Years]

"MAA" was US Airways Inc F/As flying US Airways Inc aircraft on the US Airways Inc certificate with the US Airways Inc training and manuals with thier US Airways Inc date of hire and seniority, and they got screwed out of longevity there, so my guess is you'd be screwed in the HP deal too.

God forbid these people are not even looking for pay or seniority, just credit for thier time with the company like everyone else gets. Let's say a 2000 US hire is recalled to US in 2010. They could have spent a decade flying non-stop for US Airways between "mainline", "MAA" and the America West side, and get recalled to two year pay.

 

[etops1]

This is not absurd - that many people wouldnt come back anyway so i really dont think you have anything to worry about - lets say they have 200 positions to fill and the fence is up two years - I can assure you it will balance out over the two years due to attrition and people just outing - it would be different if 2000 people could bump your seniority after the fence was let down but that isnt going to happen - i have to say US is positive about the merger and we aren't here to displace or bump anyone - I have been here 6 years and i would just like a job for once!! So think about it that way- do i want a job or do i want bumped a couple numbers and that is worst case - Don't forget we at US have given up ALOT including pay etc., including duty rigs - now that being said lets just work as a team and make this company work and be the best damn airline we can be TOGETHER!!!! It's all going to work out and we will all be fine - Take care in Phoenix!!!

[post="294170"][/post]​

i am drunk on a phx layover and your totally right . i am hanging with some hp f/a's and we are having a good time. us/hp aLL the way. we are gonna kick delta's ass.

 

[700UW]

It is not Delta US has to worry about it is Southwest and Jetblue, you know two airlines that are making money, buying more plans and adding new service.

 

[etops1]

###k delta and ###k jetblue. we will be back and kick some royal ###. with parker on the helm. i f you don't beleive in us then take a hike. i am so tired of you (700uw) putting us down. you are nothing but a utility guy who probrably got layed off( i feel for you). you need to get a ####ing life. go get another job or something and stop posting so many negative remarks on here. i wish i knew who you were so i could confront you cause your pissing me off. why don't you send me a personal e-mail so we could meet in clt sometime?

 

[700UW]

Dude,

Not good to post on the computer after you been drinking.

Back away from the keyboard.

Nope, not a utility guy, not laid off.

And if I am just a realist, maybe you should try it sometime and if you had to deal with the with this team of labor relations you would know why I take the tone I do.

If you had not looked WN chased US from CA, BWI, and is slowly encirciling the east coast, they have made a profit for over the past 30 years, can US say that?

And Jetblue was created because US was gouging the passengers in NY.

Don't let the facts get in your way.

 

[etops1]

just be nice.

 

[luvn737s]

700 UW averages 10 posts/day everyday. The man obviously has far too easy access to a computer and far too little to do. That should change in 19 days.

 

[700UW]

Funny,

You don't know anything about me, I post from home. I do not have interent access from work.

And nothing will change in 19 days, the IAM CBA is still in effect and the company has to abide by it.

But keep trying, and if you don't like to read my posts I suggest you use the ignore feature.

 

[Twicebaked]

Are you kidding me?  Double seniority?  This merger already puts  America West Flight Attendants in a total DISADVANTAGE and they get double seniority too? With this double seniority and date of hire integration, I would get bumped even more since we were cross utilized in the 80s! This will affect even some of our MEC Officers and negotiating team. This has to be a rumour and I hope our negotiating team will put up a strong and long fence because this is not good for all America West Flight Attendants.

Please check your afa updates and read how they are going to integrate our seniority. Thank you.

[post="294122"][/post]​

This is not putting you or anyone else at a disadvantage! Do you not think that those from US that already got furloughed years ago and came to AWA don't hold a "double" seniority??? They STILL hold their US seniority and can come back when recalled. They ALSO hold a seniority at AWA! It is the same thing. US furloughees come to AWA as NEW HIRES as they CANNOT yet hold a spot back at US. Once their seniority gets called back to mainline, I would assume they will have the choice of keeping their "new" AWA seniority and stay in PHX or LAS or they can go back to the East coast with their "old" US seniority. The only person to potentially get screwed would be the senior US person that wants to go back to the West if the furloughees get to stay in PHX or LAS when recalled at their US seniority. But, as stated before AWA starting pay is basically like MAA and people passed that by. I don't think you need to put up flood gates.