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yes, it has.
The refinery is profitable on a standalone basis - as required by accounting rules, is net positive since it was acquired by DL, and that doesn't begin to count the reduced jet fuel costs that the refinery has provided thru increased capacity of jet fuel.
yes, the refinery is profitable on a standalone basis.
once again, the primary principle behind DL's decision to invest in the refinery was because the US is consuming less and less gasoline which is the primary output for US refineries. As such, there are fewer refineries needed. Jet fuel is a byproduct for most US refineries. Jet fuel demand is not falling as fast as gasoline demand thus the price of jet fuel relative to other petroleum products was elevated - via the crack spread.
DL bought the refinery with the intention of converting it to a high jet fuel output facility and it is producing jet fuel at or close to the maximum chemical limit. The jet fuel produced by DL's Trainer refinery is shipped via dedicated pipelines to DL's operations in NYC and then beyond to other locations in the NE. The rest of the products which Trainer produces are exchanged with oil companies for jet fuel in other locations where DL needs jet fuel.
the whole purpose of the refinery was to increase the supply of jet fuel and for DL to be able to obtain one of its largest costs from an in-house producer, itself.
There were many people who argued that DL couldn't make the refinery work but it has done that.
As DL's bad fuel hedges fall away, it will be much more apparent how much DL saves on fuel relative to its peers because of the refinery. Before the price of oil dropped and DL lost on hedges, it was saving up to 10 cents/gallon on jet fuel because of Trainer. It is likely that will happen again.
and no one factored in the savings DL gained from Trainer when they talk about how much DL lost on hedges.
again, AA made the decision not to hedge. Most other airlines hedge.
DL not only hedges but also uses the refinery to manage its jet fuel costs.
As hedges expire, the refinery will play a bigger role in differentiating fuel costs between airlines.
Revenue will play a larger role in differentiating profitability.
The refinery is profitable on a standalone basis - as required by accounting rules, is net positive since it was acquired by DL, and that doesn't begin to count the reduced jet fuel costs that the refinery has provided thru increased capacity of jet fuel.
yes, the refinery is profitable on a standalone basis.
once again, the primary principle behind DL's decision to invest in the refinery was because the US is consuming less and less gasoline which is the primary output for US refineries. As such, there are fewer refineries needed. Jet fuel is a byproduct for most US refineries. Jet fuel demand is not falling as fast as gasoline demand thus the price of jet fuel relative to other petroleum products was elevated - via the crack spread.
DL bought the refinery with the intention of converting it to a high jet fuel output facility and it is producing jet fuel at or close to the maximum chemical limit. The jet fuel produced by DL's Trainer refinery is shipped via dedicated pipelines to DL's operations in NYC and then beyond to other locations in the NE. The rest of the products which Trainer produces are exchanged with oil companies for jet fuel in other locations where DL needs jet fuel.
the whole purpose of the refinery was to increase the supply of jet fuel and for DL to be able to obtain one of its largest costs from an in-house producer, itself.
There were many people who argued that DL couldn't make the refinery work but it has done that.
As DL's bad fuel hedges fall away, it will be much more apparent how much DL saves on fuel relative to its peers because of the refinery. Before the price of oil dropped and DL lost on hedges, it was saving up to 10 cents/gallon on jet fuel because of Trainer. It is likely that will happen again.
and no one factored in the savings DL gained from Trainer when they talk about how much DL lost on hedges.
again, AA made the decision not to hedge. Most other airlines hedge.
DL not only hedges but also uses the refinery to manage its jet fuel costs.
As hedges expire, the refinery will play a bigger role in differentiating fuel costs between airlines.
Revenue will play a larger role in differentiating profitability.