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First USAirways West IAE engine powered A321

etops1 said:
its so stupid that they are separating them as east and west . the ones we got are 191 and up but the phx based ones start in the 500's . is it because they have different engine types? are the rest of the A321 deliveries with the iae engines? and are they only gonna be flown by phx crews?
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Actually there is a plan in this madness. There was a list posted a couple of years ago in the form of a pdf.

In the narrow body Airbus fleet it goes as follows:

319 East CFM powered, 700 series tail number
319 West IAE powered, 800 series tail number
320/321 East CFM powered, 100 series tail number
320 West IAE powered, 600 series tail number

other types:
757 non etops 900 series tail number.
737-300 were all supposed to be put into the 300 series tail number,
737-400 400 series.

All etops aircraft regardless of type are a 200 series tail.

The E190 was put in the 900 series
and now the IAE 321 is put in the 500 series.

With the new 321 deliveries, you would think they could have combined the order and created a common type as far as the engines go.
 
PHX-F/A said:
With the new 321 deliveries, you would think they could have combined the order and created a common type as far as the engines go.
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I think they effectively did, but could do nothing about the different engines on the existing fleet when the orders were combined. Aren't all future deliveries of A320 family aircraft supposed to have the IAE engines?

Jim
 
PHX-F/A said:
Is it true that the 318, 319, 320, 321 all have the same wing?
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Essentially, that is correct. The A321 wing is actually very slightly shorter than the 319 and 320 due to some design modification to the wing tips that it underwent (that hasn't been incorporated into the "older" designs.) I have no idea about the 318.
 
BoeingBoy said:
I think they effectively did, but could do nothing about the different engines on the existing fleet when the orders were combined. Aren't all future deliveries of A320 family aircraft supposed to have the IAE engines?

Jim
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I can't cite any documents but I remember reading the same thing.
 
ableoneable said:
I can't cite any documents but I remember reading the same thing.
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I think that's correct. From what I understand, the IAE is slightly more efficient than the equivalent CFM.

I am surprised that the company would "get away" with choosing the IAE over the CFM, though, considering the intimate financial dealings USAirways has with General Electric.
 
nycbusdriver said:
I think that's correct. From what I understand, the IAE is slightly more efficient than the equivalent CFM.

I am surprised that the company would "get away" with choosing the IAE over the CFM, though, considering the intimate financial dealings USAirways has with General Electric.
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It will be a mixture of A321s and A320s with CFM and V2500 powered on both East and West networks through Nov 2010, thereafter all deliveries will be V2500. The reason is due to the original purchase agreements between the GE and US and IAE and HP.
Regards
DC
 
I flew US 731 PHL-LAS on Sun 11/23 on a new A321, and from what I read that must have been tail #507. The airworthiness certificate above the door was stamped Sep 2008. Man that thing was CLEAN! I like the new overhead reading lights that don't just pop on and off when you hit the button, but instead they dim on and off slowly. They are also a flourescent (or are they LED) of some kind, with a higher color temperature that is more like daylight than a tungsten bulb.

I was in first class. The tray tables are not as deep, but plenty wide. The recline of the seats is minimal. Barely even qualifies for First class, sadly.

Alas, no power ports (which we all knew). No closets (which we all knew). No IFE (which we all knew). The novelty of being a new plane wore off before the door even closed......
 
PHL said:
I flew US 731 PHL-LAS on Sun 11/23 on a new A321, and from what I read that must have been tail #507. The airworthiness certificate above the door was stamped Sep 2008. Man that thing was CLEAN! I like the new overhead reading lights that don't just pop on and off when you hit the button, but instead they dim on and off slowly. They are also a flourescent (or are they LED) of some kind, with a higher color temperature that is more like daylight than a tungsten bulb.

I was in first class. The tray tables are not as deep, but plenty wide. The recline of the seats is minimal. Barely even qualifies for First class, sadly.

Alas, no power ports (which we all knew). No closets (which we all knew). No IFE (which we all knew). The novelty of being a new plane wore off before the door even closed......
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Sorry but TODAY was the first revenue flight with A/C 507 on the 1110am PHX-LAS flight.
 
Hope777 said:
Sorry but TODAY was the first revenue flight with A/C 507 on the 1110am PHX-LAS flight.
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Are there more than 1 of the new generation of A321's currently in the US fleet? I did not look at the reg. number, but the certificate above the door was absolutely Sep 2009 and the cabin/interior was new. Several passengers noted the "new" interior and the F/A confirmed it was a brand new A321.
 
PHL said:
Are there more than 1 of the new generation of A321's currently in the US fleet? I did not look at the reg. number, but the certificate above the door was absolutely Sep 2009 and the cabin/interior was new. Several passengers noted the "new" interior and the F/A confirmed it was a brand new A321.
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Yep, currently 4

N193UW, N194UW, and N195UW for the east and now N507AY for the west.
 
And flight 731 should still be operated by East crews with East airplanes.

Jim
 
There's lots I don't know, but give me a few minutes and I'll have an opinion about anything...

Jim
 
How long will it take to replace the 737's with 319/320's. When will the last 737 leave the property?
 
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