Election year 2020

[robbedagain]

Are you denying that Democrats have rioted, looted, and set fires?

I think you need to pay attention to where MOST of these issues are happening.

Back in 2015 or 16 in my area riots following Freddie Gray a CVS was looted n burned and few other blogs were damaged n or destroyed. The mayor who was a Democrat failed to get help from our Republican governor. Fast fwd to this year following MSP riots after George Floyd the protests here was totally peaceful but 50 miles south...in dc was something else. Even bvb though I'm a Democrat I blame the mayor back in 2015 or 16 for her failure to call in help which could have prevented damage. On flip side I believe police reform needs to be done and over next few years in Baltimore City many programs are going to implemented

 

[KCFlyer]

The only thing that shows me is the effectiveness of leftist conditioning. If you don't vote Joe you ain't black. Remember? Let's be honest, a vote for senile Joe is really a vote for that extreme leftist ***** Kamala Harris.

Save your gloating for when it is actually over.

The fact you have a bunch of leftards threatening more rioting if their candidate does not win should be considered as well. Frankly Trump should have sent in the National Guard to deal with those domestic terrorist by lethal force.

The only person who threatened (or warned) of violence was Donald T Rump, who said that if PA (which is is ahead in as they count mail in ballots) didn't stop the count, there would be violence in the streets.

https://www.dw.com/en/donald-trump-...ill-induce-violence-in-the-streets/a-55480036

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

The only person who threatened (or warned) of violence was Donald T Rump, who said that if PA (which is is ahead in as they count mail in ballots) didn't stop the count, there would be violence in the streets.

https://www.dw.com/en/donald-trump-...ill-induce-violence-in-the-streets/a-55480036

Right.... that is why all these BLUE cities are boarding up their stores, because of conservatives......

Do you actually believe your own BS?

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

Back in 2015 or 16 in my area riots following Freddie Gray a CVS was looted n burned and few other blogs were damaged n or destroyed. The mayor who was a Democrat failed to get help from our Republican governor. Fast fwd to this year following MSP riots after George Floyd the protests here was totally peaceful but 50 miles south...in dc was something else. Even bvb though I'm a Democrat I blame the mayor back in 2015 or 16 for her failure to call in help which could have prevented damage. On flip side I believe police reform needs to be done and over next few years in Baltimore City many programs are going to implemented

Alright. What exactly do you want to see changed?

I might remind you the media lied about Michael Brown, Trayvon Martin, and Eric Garner. The politicians (Democrats) used those false narratives to serve their own purposes. You sure the information you are basing this need for change on is accurate or have you just fallen victim to leftist conditioning?

Take a couple of days and really think it over before you answer.

 

[Dog Wonder]

Narratives and leftist conditioning. The steady AM radio listeners limited explanation for all things they don't understand.

 

[KCFlyer]

Narratives and leftist conditioning. The steady AM radio listeners limited explanation for all things they don't understand.

Give him some credit...he didn't put antifa or deep state in there.

 

[Kev3188]

Speaking of "conditioning," how radicalized do you have to be to participate in something like this?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...etroit-vote-count-election-2020-b1598248.html

 

[robbedagain]

Alright. What exactly do you want to see changed?

I might remind you the media lied about Michael Brown, Trayvon Martin, and Eric Garner. The politicians (Democrats) used those false narratives to serve their own purposes. You sure the information you are basing this need for change on is accurate or have you just fallen victim to leftist conditioning?

Take a couple of days and really think it over before you answer.

Trayvon you may recall did not have a criminal record. Same with Breona Taylor. not sure bout Gardener or Brown. As for Baltimore city near me they have a panel mixed w officials n civilians. What exactly did media liebout the reference names? George Floyd while he had a criminal record we dont truly know if he truly had a fake 20 dollar bill.... but who gave that cop the right to kneel on his neck for 8 min n 46 seconds? If u look at the justice system I think reform should be happening. Let met me ask u this. If a black person were to assault elderly grandparents what kind of sentence do u think they would receive? Now compare w white person doing same thing. For sake let's say both have a record. Let's use Fla. In Fla its felony to assault elderly.
I'm using this as example but true. My nephew who is white n is between 18 n 23 is facing 6 years in prison...3 for assault on my dad n my stepmother. He is white.
If it were a black person do u think that person would get a much harsher sentence?

 

[PeteIsthatu]

 

[PeteIsthatu]

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

Speaking of "conditioning," how radicalized do you have to be to participate in something like this?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...etroit-vote-count-election-2020-b1598248.html

IF they think there is fraud going on they SHOULD speak up.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

Trayvon you may recall did not have a criminal record. Same with Breona Taylor. not sure bout Gardener or Brown. As for Baltimore city near me they have a panel mixed w officials n civilians. What exactly did media liebout the reference names? George Floyd while he had a criminal record we dont truly know if he truly had a fake 20 dollar bill.... but who gave that cop the right to kneel on his neck for 8 min n 46 seconds? If u look at the justice system I think reform should be happening. Let met me ask u this. If a black person were to assault elderly grandparents what kind of sentence do u think they would receive? Now compare w white person doing same thing. For sake let's say both have a record. Let's use Fla. In Fla its felony to assault elderly.
I'm using this as example but true. My nephew who is white n is between 18 n 23 is facing 6 years in prison...3 for assault on my dad n my stepmother. He is white.
If it were a black person do u think that person would get a much harsher sentence?

You want to know what the media lied about?

Well you were alive then but if you insist.......

Michael Brown
The narrative the media pushed is Michael Brown was an innocent black youth who was simply walking down the street and was accosted by a racist cop. They proclaimed he had his hands up telling the officer don't shoot (I am sure you remember "Hands Up, Don't Shoot).

The truth is Michael Brown had strong arm robbed a clerk earlier that day and there was an APB out that matched his description. The police offer, who had just come on shift and had just read the APB, noticed Michael Brown matched the description and pulled up to him in his vehicle to question him. Michael Brown attacked that officer through his car window hitting him several times in the face and tried to go for his gun.

He was not a racist cop who shot an unarmed black man begging for his life. He was a police officer investigating a suspicious person (suspicious in that he matched the description in the APB) who was assaulted by a thug making an attempt to gain control of his side arm.



Trayvon Martin

First things first. You start your post off by stating Trayvon Martin had no criminal record. Trayvon Martin was not killed by police. I was killed by a private citizen named George Zimmerman. That right there tells me you say a lot but hear little.

The narrative the media pushed is that Trayvon Martin was assaulted by an out of control white racist for daring to be in the wrong neighborhood.

The truth is the other person involved in the incident identified as Hispanic not White (he was also a Democrat who voted for Obama and In early 2011 participated in a citizen forum at the Sanford City Hall to protest the beating of a black homeless man by the son of a white Sanford police officer, hardly a man with a history of racism). He was part of a neighborhood watch patrol and confronted Trayvon because he did not recognize him as someone who lived in the neighborhood. The media also failed to state that Trayvon Martin had George Zimmerman (who was physically a lot smaller than Treyvon) on his back ground pounding him before Zimmerman shot him.

I was not there but I am guessing it probably went down like this. Zimmerman confronted Trayvon (who had a legitimate reason for being in the neighborhood as he was staying with family) and was met with a typical mouthy youth. Trayvon probably felt slighted having someone question him. Zimmerman should have backed off right then as most mature adults would have and called the police. Instead he kept pressing Trayvon (who was 17 years old and we all know how volatile youth can be) who retaliated. After he attacked Zimmerman simply shot him to protect himself. Ultimately I think Zimmerman is to blame as he should have been mature enough not to escalate the issue but I don't believe he attacked Trayvon or even approached him simply because he was black.

Then there was the issue of Obama stoking the fires by saying "If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon". Obama playing identity politics threw gas on an otherwise volatile situation.

Finally there was the issue of the media using a much younger picture of Trayvon to try and garner public sympathy.

Below is a picture of injuries sustained by Zimmerman after Trayvon attacked him.

Eric Garner
Well this story started off with Eric Garner being a peace maker.

He was on the street selling "loosies" which is the practice of private sale of individual cigarettes. Eric witnessed a fight break out and he broke the fight up however the police had already been called. After arriving they attempted to arrest Garner for selling loosies on the charge he was selling cigarettes without stamps (New York City loves those taxes) which they had done many times before. Eric Garner stated he was tired of being harassed and resisted arrest. Eric Garner was a very large man and the police resorted to a choke hold to take him down to the ground. The narrative is a racist cop use an illegal maneuver that resulted in Eric's death.

The truth is Eric Garner did not die on the scene due to a choke hold. He died while being transported to the hospital in an Ambulance. The media failed to disclose Eric Garner was obese, suffered from heart disease, severe asthma, and diabetes. I am sure the choke hold contributed but my belief is if he was not already so unhealthy he most likely would not have died that day. Eric Garner did not die due to abuse from racist police officers. He died because he was a very large man, very unhealthy man resisting arrest and the police had to resort to unsanctioned tactics to get him under control.

Do you think the police should just back off anytime a criminal claims discomfort while resisting arrest?

Why should I believe a damn thing the media says? They have a history of half truths and outright lies.

Do I believe blacks get harsher sentences? I don't know. Maybe they do. But cops do not sentence criminals they only apprehend them. So you tell me why you think we need police reform. Police have NOTHING to do with sentencing so basing your claim off of that is ridiculous. Seems to me you are just repeating a narrative and your statement has no basis in fact. Maybe you should work for the media, you would fit right in.

 

[robbedagain]

You want to know what the media lied about?

Well you were alive then but if you insist.......

Michael Brown
The narrative the media pushed is Michael Brown was an innocent black youth who was simply walking down the street and was accosted by a racist cop. They proclaimed he had his hands up telling the officer don't shoot (I am sure you remember "Hands Up, Don't Shoot).

The truth is Michael Brown had strong arm robbed a clerk earlier that day and there was an APB out that matched his description. The police offer, who had just come on shift and had just read the APB, noticed Michael Brown matched the description and pulled up to him in his vehicle to question him. Michael Brown attacked that officer through his car window hitting him several times in the face and tried to go for his gun.

He was not a racist cop who shot an unarmed black man begging for his life. He was a police officer investigating a suspicious person (suspicious in that he matched the description in the APB) who was assaulted by a thug making an attempt to gain control of his side arm.



Trayvon Martin

First things first. You start your post off by stating Trayvon Martin had no criminal record. Trayvon Martin was not killed by police. I was killed by a private citizen named George Zimmerman. That right there tells me you say a lot but hear little.

The narrative the media pushed is that Trayvon Martin was assaulted by an out of control white racist for daring to be in the wrong neighborhood.

The truth is the other person involved in the incident identified as Hispanic not White (he was also a Democrat who voted for Obama and In early 2011 participated in a citizen forum at the Sanford City Hall to protest the beating of a black homeless man by the son of a white Sanford police officer, hardly a man with a history of racism). He was part of a neighborhood watch patrol and confronted Trayvon because he did not recognize him as someone who lived in the neighborhood. The media also failed to state that Trayvon Martin had George Zimmerman (who was physically a lot smaller than Treyvon) on his back ground pounding him before Zimmerman shot him.

I was not there but I am guessing it probably went down like this. Zimmerman confronted Trayvon (who had a legitimate reason for being in the neighborhood as he was staying with family) and was met with a typical mouthy youth. Trayvon probably felt slighted having someone question him. Zimmerman should have backed off right then as most mature adults would have and called the police. Instead he kept pressing Trayvon (who was 17 years old and we all know how volatile youth can be) who retaliated. After he attacked Zimmerman simply shot him to protect himself. Ultimately I think Zimmerman is to blame as he should have been mature enough not to escalate the issue but I don't believe he attacked Trayvon or even approached him simply because he was black.

Then there was the issue of Obama stoking the fires by saying "If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon". Obama playing identity politics threw gas on an otherwise volatile situation.

Finally there was the issue of the media using a much younger picture of Trayvon to try and garner public sympathy.

Below is a picture of injuries sustained by Zimmerman after Trayvon attacked him.

Eric Garner
Well this story started off with Eric Garner being a peace maker.

He was on the street selling "loosies" which is the practice of private sale of individual cigarettes. Eric witnessed a fight break out and he broke the fight up however the police had already been called. After arriving they attempted to arrest Garner for selling loosies on the charge he was selling cigarettes without stamps (New York City loves those taxes) which they had done many times before. Eric Garner stated he was tired of being harassed and resisted arrest. Eric Garner was a very large man and the police resorted to a choke hold to take him down to the ground. The narrative is a racist cop use an illegal maneuver that resulted in Eric's death.

The truth is Eric Garner did not die on the scene due to a choke hold. He died while being transported to the hospital in an Ambulance. The media failed to disclose Eric Garner was obese, suffered from heart disease, severe asthma, and diabetes. I am sure the choke hold contributed but my belief is if he was not already so unhealthy he most likely would not have died that day. Eric Garner did not die due to abuse from racist police officers. He died because he was a very large man, very unhealthy man resisting arrest and the police had to resort to unsanctioned tactics to get him under control.

Do you think the police should just back off anytime a criminal claims discomfort while resisting arrest?

Why should I believe a damn thing the media says? They have a history of half truths and outright lies.

Do I believe blacks get harsher sentences? I don't know. Maybe they do. But cops do not sentence criminals they only apprehend them. So you tell me why you think we need police reform. Police have NOTHING to do with sentencing so basing your claim off of that is ridiculous. Seems to me you are just repeating a narrative and your statement has no basis in fact. Maybe you should work for the media, you would fit right in.

I dont. I do not fit in w media. Sorry to burst ur bubbles. I remember when Trayvon Martin was murdered by Zimmerman. I believe it cld been handled a helluva lot better but Fla has the Stand Your Ground law. Similarly to Kentucky. Sorry I dont care too much for Fox news. either. But I will say as much as riots occurred under Obama it was bad but I feel it was worse under trump primarily because trump really did voice support for the white supremacists type groups.
Let's move on. How do u explain the kidnap plot against 2 governor....MI n VA?

 

[KCFlyer]

IN regards to George Zimmerman...if I might paraphrase a line that you all like to use against the black guys getting shot by cops..."If he had only listened to the 9/11 operator and not followed him, none of that would have happened". Zimmerman was looking for **** and he found it. Yep...he was acquitted..but his subsequent actions show the real George...

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

IN regards to George Zimmerman...if I might paraphrase a line that you all like to use against the black guys getting shot by cops..."If he had only listened to the 9/11 operator and not followed him, none of that would have happened". Zimmerman was looking for **** and he found it. Yep...he was acquitted..but his subsequent actions show the real George...

Zimmerman should have backed off right then as most mature adults would have and called the police. Instead he kept pressing Trayvon (who was 17 years old and we all know how volatile youth can be) who retaliated.

Did you even read what I wrote?

I dont. I do not fit in w media. Sorry to burst ur bubbles. I remember when Trayvon Martin was murdered by Zimmerman. I believe it cld been handled a helluva lot better but Fla has the Stand Your Ground law. Similarly to Kentucky. Sorry I dont care too much for Fox news. either. But I will say as much as riots occurred under Obama it was bad but I feel it was worse under trump primarily because trump really did voice support for the white supremacists type groups.
Let's move on. How do u explain the kidnap plot against 2 governor....MI n VA?

Well maybe you should pay more attention to what the hell is going on around you.

Did Zimmerman act inappropriately by confronting Trayvon? Absolutely. He used poor judgement. Was he in the right to shoot someone who had him down on his back beating him? You bet your ass he did. At the end of the day Trayvon attacked HIM not the other way around.

Trump did not make statements supporting white supremacists groups. That is you, again, falling for a false media narrative. You know that media you don't fit in with? I know the quote you are talking about but if you bothered to research it and actually listen to or read the whole dialogue instead of focusing on the part the media hand delivered you then you would realize you got duped.

As far as the plot to kidnap the governor... I don't explain it. Ask them what their motivations were or read their proclamations (not the media edited version) then make your own decision.