Garfield1966
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Any one know the scoop? I have heard all sorts of theories that seem plausible. I got some pictures in groupwise at work and it seems pretty ugly looking. Never seen a wing come loose on an airplane before.
Eagle Accident In Sju?
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jimntx
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Gar, according to news reports, the a/c blew a tire on landing which caused it to veer off the runway. Last I heard, it was still "under investigation" as to the cause of the blown tire--poor maintenance, excessively hard landing, etc.
ITRADE
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jimntx
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Thanks, Itrade. The pictures I had seen were not that clear. Does not look pretty. I think it's a testament to the a/c industry both manufacturing and safety procedures that no one was killed.
ITRADE
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Looks like there was some foward buckling. If the #1 FA is seated forward, I'll bet she/he was scared ****less. Hope the FA wasn't hurt. Same with the crew up forward.
95% guarantee that we've got a write off.
95% guarantee that we've got a write off.
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interesting how the the horizontal stabilizer also appears to have failed in the same way the wings, im perplexed that a mere hard landing or blown tire could cause this amount of structural failure.
:huh:
IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 438AT Make/Model: AT72 Description: ATR-72
Date: 05/09/2004 Time: 1850
Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: Serious Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Substantial
LOCATION
City: SAN JUAN State: PR Country: US
DESCRIPTION
AMERICAN EAGLE FLIGHT 401, N438AT, ATR-72 ACFTM WHILE ATTEMPTING TO RECOVER
FROM A HARD LANDING, GEAR COLLAPSED, AND ACFT CRASHED, 26 PERSONS WERE ON
BOARD, 13 RECEIVED INJURIES, 1 SERIOUS INJURY, SAN JUAN, PUERTO RICO
INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 4 Fat: 0 Ser: 1 Min: 1 Unk:
# Pass: 22 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 11 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
WEATHER: 1856Z 07015G22KT 10SM FEW023 SCT034 BKN055
OTHER DATA
Activity: Business Phase: Landing Operation: Air Carrier
Departed: MAYAGUEZ Dep Date: 05/09/2004 Dep. Time:
Destination: SAN JUAN, PR Flt Plan: IFR Wx Briefing: N
Last Radio Cont: LOCAL CONTROL
Last Clearance: CLR VISUAL RY8 APCH
FAA FSDO: SAN JUAN, PR (SO21) Entry date: 05/11/2004 #
IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 438AT Make/Model: AT72 Description: ATR-72
Date: 05/09/2004 Time: 1850
Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: Serious Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Substantial
LOCATION
City: SAN JUAN State: PR Country: US
DESCRIPTION
AMERICAN EAGLE FLIGHT 401, N438AT, ATR-72 ACFTM WHILE ATTEMPTING TO RECOVER
FROM A HARD LANDING, GEAR COLLAPSED, AND ACFT CRASHED, 26 PERSONS WERE ON
BOARD, 13 RECEIVED INJURIES, 1 SERIOUS INJURY, SAN JUAN, PUERTO RICO
INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 4 Fat: 0 Ser: 1 Min: 1 Unk:
# Pass: 22 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 11 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
WEATHER: 1856Z 07015G22KT 10SM FEW023 SCT034 BKN055
OTHER DATA
Activity: Business Phase: Landing Operation: Air Carrier
Departed: MAYAGUEZ Dep Date: 05/09/2004 Dep. Time:
Destination: SAN JUAN, PR Flt Plan: IFR Wx Briefing: N
Last Radio Cont: LOCAL CONTROL
Last Clearance: CLR VISUAL RY8 APCH
FAA FSDO: SAN JUAN, PR (SO21) Entry date: 05/11/2004 #
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Garfield1966
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I have a pic that shows th right side prop took out one window as well due to the wing comming loose and twisting.
We were hearing things at work that indicated that the FO only had 20 hrs seat time and he screwed the pooch by comming in to hot for the landing which resulted in a blown tire.
We were hearing things at work that indicated that the FO only had 20 hrs seat time and he screwed the pooch by comming in to hot for the landing which resulted in a blown tire.
i saw it happen . i was getting ready to depart sju to phl on us 98 a-330 . we were holding short of rnway 8 to let the atr land. i was looking out my port hole sitting on the right hand side of the plane. the plane looked like he was a little high. as soon as he touched down the tire blew and the a/c spinned out into the trees. the pax that were looking out the window all gasped. it looked like they went for quite a ride. we taxied down the rnway turned right on the next taxiway and proceeded to rnway 10 and took off to phl . during the flt we were all wondering if everyone was ok. thank goodness no one was killed. god i wish i had my video camera.
Garfield; I have hear the same on the F/O. I have also hear the Capt. suffered serious a spinal injuries requiring surgery. Something wrong with his legs... What I've heard the PIC let the F/O shoot the landing. He was a little high and slow on final. ie. stalled. hit the rwy on mains collapsing mains and bouncing to come back nose first then the wing hit the gnd. I'm sorry for the F/O, he has a lot of paper work ahead. My prayers are with the capt., hope he make it out of this one ok.
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NTSB Investigates ATR 72 Hard Landing
Aviation Week & Space Technology
05/17/2004, page 40
Frances Fiorino
Washington
ATR 72 Hard Landing at San Juan
NTSB investigators are unraveling what chain of events led to American Eagle Flight 5401's hard landing at San Juan, Puerto Rico, which caused substantial wing damage and injuries to 13 of 26 people on board.
On May 9, the ATR 72-212 twin-turboprop aircraft (N438AT) landed on Runway 8 at San Juan's Luiz Munoz International Airport at about 2:50 p.m. local time. Four crew and 22 passengers were on the flight from Mayaguez, Puerto Rico.
According to preliminary NTSB data, the aircraft landed hard, and then departed the runway. Examination revealed that the left landing gear had separated from the aircraft and that the left wing was substantially damaged (see photo). In the process, 11 passengers and one crewmember sustained minor injuries; one crewmember suffered serious injury.
Investigators are exploring all possible factors leading to the accident, including weather and mechanical problems.
FAA preliminary data show the aircraft encountered 15-kt. winds from 070 deg. with gusts to 22 kt. Visibility was 10 mi. In addition, the flight crew was in contact with local controllers and had received clearance for the visual approach to Runway 8.
The ATR 72-series landing gear has been the focus of a few FAA airworthiness directives. One--AD-98-04-43, which became effective Apr. 3, 1998--required replacement of certain landing gear attachment pins. Its purpose was to prevent wear of the pins, "which could result in collapse of the main landing gear."
Credit: PEDRO PAENECO
In 1994, reports of the rupture of hinge pins due to stress corrosion in the main landing gear shock absorber produced AD 94-15-09. This AD, effective Aug. 8, 1994, required hinge pin inspections "to prevent loss of the main landing gear during a hard landing due to malfunction of the shock absorber."
NTSB Investigates ATR 72 Hard Landing
Aviation Week & Space Technology
05/17/2004, page 40
Frances Fiorino
Washington
ATR 72 Hard Landing at San Juan
NTSB investigators are unraveling what chain of events led to American Eagle Flight 5401's hard landing at San Juan, Puerto Rico, which caused substantial wing damage and injuries to 13 of 26 people on board.
On May 9, the ATR 72-212 twin-turboprop aircraft (N438AT) landed on Runway 8 at San Juan's Luiz Munoz International Airport at about 2:50 p.m. local time. Four crew and 22 passengers were on the flight from Mayaguez, Puerto Rico.
According to preliminary NTSB data, the aircraft landed hard, and then departed the runway. Examination revealed that the left landing gear had separated from the aircraft and that the left wing was substantially damaged (see photo). In the process, 11 passengers and one crewmember sustained minor injuries; one crewmember suffered serious injury.
Investigators are exploring all possible factors leading to the accident, including weather and mechanical problems.
FAA preliminary data show the aircraft encountered 15-kt. winds from 070 deg. with gusts to 22 kt. Visibility was 10 mi. In addition, the flight crew was in contact with local controllers and had received clearance for the visual approach to Runway 8.
The ATR 72-series landing gear has been the focus of a few FAA airworthiness directives. One--AD-98-04-43, which became effective Apr. 3, 1998--required replacement of certain landing gear attachment pins. Its purpose was to prevent wear of the pins, "which could result in collapse of the main landing gear."
Credit: PEDRO PAENECO
In 1994, reports of the rupture of hinge pins due to stress corrosion in the main landing gear shock absorber produced AD 94-15-09. This AD, effective Aug. 8, 1994, required hinge pin inspections "to prevent loss of the main landing gear during a hard landing due to malfunction of the shock absorber."
