DL announcing raises, changes to Profit Sharing

[WeAAsles]

Put a frog into a pot of boiling water and he'll jump out. Put a frog in cold water and turn up the heat, and he'll boil to death.

Dramatic maybe but true.

 

[townpete]

wrong pete   CWA folks at LUS get PS and theyre in the union  yes union   they've made out pretty darn good in past few yrs with PS    but the down side is they do not have a retirement or 401k

No CBA that included any retirement benefits? No 401k either?

Color me not impressed at all.

 

[bob@las-AA]

The tortoise won the race, not the hare. Weed em out slowly. One at a time. Slow death.
The future is bleak for Mr New kid.

Mr. New kid with a pending 14.5 raise to you Dave.

 

[topDawg]

Dude, take whatever I say however you want! I completely understand a job is about more than just a paycheck, but that STILL doesn't change the fact, the IAM took a huge kick in the nuts....period!

OK.....try this one. Did DL's announcement
A. Help the union drive
or
B. Hurt the union drive

A simple a or b answer would suffice.

Re-word the question all you want. If the union drives aren't based on money then it means nothing. 
 
I have a question, you said you got laid off during BK right? (or was it just dropped to ASM?) 
If you were laid off just how much of a **** did you give about Delta pay at the time? Were you happy when we got pay raises while you were out of work? 
 
Again, if a union drive is about scope and say the RR program then this pay raise does literally nothing to change that. You can toss as much money at people as you want but if they get DGSed that pay rate doesn't mean one single thing. 

DL's "Terms of Employment"
 
#1 Show Up on Time for work.
#2 Work as a team.
#3 No sleeping on the clock.
 
And in exchange for close to $60,000 a year.

Hey look Bob is talking 
and again doesn't know what he is talking about. 

 

[topDawg]

Contract doesn't guarantee you sh!t. The employment landscape is littered with unions who failed to protect or sold out the work group.

Case closed.

So you don't know what a contract is or means then. Well that does explain a lot. 

 

[700UW]

Im repeating myself, when DL got rid of Cabin service the employees were absorbed into the ramp. Whem US got rid of the IAM utility they were shown the street

Wrong they were offered preferential hiring into open ramp jobs.

I was on the NC during chapter 11 part two when our CBA was abrogated.

In the final offer which the membership ratified contained an LOA offering the fleet jobs.

Don't let the facts get in your way.

And many former utility received an upgrade into stores after the layoff.

Stick to things you know , the mechanic and related CBA, isn't something you know nor worked under.

 

[Lucky777]

The tortoise won the race, not the hare. Weed em out slowly. One at a time. Slow death.

The future is bleak for Mr New kid.

 
You seem to want to apply my relative "newness" on these boards along with my time at my job.I was hired on when Ron Allen was CEO so needless to say the two don't go hand-in-hand in this case.

Put a frog into a pot of boiling water and he'll jump out. Put a frog in cold water and turn up the heat, and he'll boil to death.

Dramatic maybe but true.

Feel free to tell me when the water is supposed to work it's magic because it's already been 20+ years and i, along with my co-workers on the ramp are now the highest paid in the industry in hourly pay and the profit-sharing will only be icing on an already tasty cake my friend. As has already been stated ad nauseam, this move was taken by Delta after having asked for, and received, employee input on our overall benefits package. So to somehow conflate this with Delta acting unilaterally is simply untrue.

 

[swamt]

 
I'll have to admit, not one former DL mechanic I've talked to at WN would mind going back. 

Then let them go back. I bet not one will.  Tell them to go back then.  They won't...
 

AMFA over there right?

Of course, and you know it...

 

[robbedagain]

Hey Pete, our scope guarantees us the company cannot outsource a number of cities thru 2018 or when a new JCBA is reached. We are guaranteed wage increases thru that time period as well plus a raise that took effect. Gee those are guarantee for us and we are union

 

[townpete]

Hey Pete, our scope guarantees us the company cannot outsource a number of cities thru 2018 or when a new JCBA is reached. We are guaranteed wage increases thru that time period as well plus a raise that took effect. Gee those are guarantee for us and we are union

Whatever makes you feel warm and fuzzy.

The fact that most unions today, are simply political slush funds for the DNC. It makes it easy for me to disregard any possibility of wanting to join a union. IAM members howling for Bernie Sanders shows how utterly idiotic the union culture has become.

 

[WeAAsles]

Whatever makes you feel warm and fuzzy.

The fact that most unions today, are simply political slush funds for the DNC. It makes it easy for me to disregard any possibility of wanting to join a union. IAM members howling for Bernie Sanders shows how utterly idiotic the union culture has become.

What is it my good friend 700UW says? "Don't let the FACTS get in your way"
 

Earnings

In 2014, among full-time wage and salary workers, union members had median usual weekly
earnings of $970, while those who were not union members had median weekly earnings of $763.
In addition to coverage by a collective bargaining agreement, this earnings difference
reflects a variety of influences, including variations in the distributions of union members
and nonunion employees by occupation, industry, age, firm size, or geographic region.

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/union2.nr0.htm

 

[700UW]

And it's illegal for dues money to be given to a candidate or a party.

But petey doesn't care about the facts, the refute his lies.

 

[townpete]

And it's illegal for dues money to be given to a candidate or a party.
But petey doesn't care about the facts, the refute his lies.

Except that it happens all the time and has been for decades.

 

[700UW]

Wrong again petey but keep up the lies.

Go read about the LMRDA.

 

[townpete]

What is it my good friend 700UW says? "Don't let the FACTS get in your way"
 
Earnings

In 2014, among full-time wage and salary workers, union members had median usual weekly
earnings of $970, while those who were not union members had median weekly earnings of $763.
In addition to coverage by a collective bargaining agreement, this earnings difference
reflects a variety of influences, including variations in the distributions of union members
and nonunion employees by occupation, industry, age, firm size, or geographic region.

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/union2.nr0.htm

You're a good party drone. You swallow everything the regime tells you. And without question.

Carry on comrade. Useful idiots are depended upon to carry party propaganda.