Delta woos Hollywood celebrities with "party plane" from LAX to AUS for SXSW

[topDawg]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/delta-woos-hollywood-elite-invite-040001562.html

Can't fault DL for trying, but the 739 was not an impressive choice to showcase the premium DL experience.

What else would they use? the AA 319 and DL 739 is the future of the industry. 
 

 
That the funniest thing on this site.
 
Tell us, do you actually believe this or do you like to just throw out the erroneous "some posters theorize" bs ?

No, WT said something stupid about AA now every AA fan boy must repeat it in ever Delta thread. 
In other words, tell WT to stop trolling so hard and the stupid around here would go away. 
 

Despite all of these 'acheivements' at LAX  DL (mainline) still remains #4 at LAX in terms of total enplaned passengers (behind AA, UA and WN).
http://www.transtats.bts.gov/airports.asp?pn=1

Who cares? 
 

Good for Delta.  They threw a 739 onto LAX-AUS amidst their usual EMB175s.  Meanwhile, AA continues to hold a stronger market position at LAX, and a far stronger market position at AUS.  Meanwhile, while Delta is sending one 737 on LAX-AUS occasionally during big events when it's trying to impress other people whose industry business AA already dominates, AA offers not one but soon four daily mainline flights in this market (plus an EMB175).

And AA isn't even flying important markets like LAX-SEA or LAX-PDX
and more capacity on LAX-SFO
 
Can we stop with the pissing contest now or nah?  

 

[WorldTraveler]

that's funny... you call me stupid and then say that everyone else just responds in kind so it's my fault?


are you all just a bunch of mindless puppets that move on my cue?

we've discussed the LAX to SEA/PDX market a lot - and it is because AA feels a loyalty to AS so they won't throw their own capacity into AS' top markets.

And AA went with the larger aircraft/fewer flights strategy for LAX-SFO while DL started with high frequency service - like what is on the NE Shuttle - and is now building capacity now that they are filling the aircraft with higher yields.

the question is when the rest of the LAX-SFO Shuttle and not just half of the flights become all 717s.

as for the LAX pi8sing contest, you should drop in whenever the AA trolls seem to think that they will stop DL from succeeding in the market because they will gain enough gates that all of the other rules of the marketplace will be eliminated and fall in their favor.

 

[topDawg]

that's funny... you call me stupid and then say that everyone else just responds in kind so it's my fault?
 

Yes because it is a way to get you going. 
This thread will turn into a 15 page pissing contest between you and few of the AA fan boys and the only reason it happens is because you take the bait hook line and sinker every single time.
 
And you also post dumb things like you cant make a market work from third place.....unless you are Delta.  

 

[WorldTraveler]

no, I post facts regarding market share and revenue and the AA fankids fight back against them.

DL is focusing on growing its presence in LA in markets where it has traditionally not been strong and is doing very well in the LA to Texas market where AA is the largest carrier but where UA is the carrier that is blinking the most with DL's expansion.

Just like with LAX-JFK, DL kept growing JFK overall until the point where DL became the largest carrier in the market based on capacity and total segment passengers and revenue. unlike LAX to Asia for AA, DL takes measurable, attainable steps towards its growth at LAX and is achieving them. DL doesn't expect to displace AA as the largest carrier on LAX to LHR or LAX to Texas but it might attain a healthy double digit share with comparable average fares - which is exactly what they have with DFW to LGA.

 

[jcw]

Actually that's the root of the issue you think you post facts and when repeatedly shown they are incorrect you spin into sonething else look at your last post you switched topics because you like to dish it out and can not handle the truth

 

[WorldTraveler]

no, you and others simply dismiss the facts because you don't like them.

the facts are very much accurate. you just don't believe them and call me a liar... as if that changes the facts regarding DL's growth in LAX domestic or AA's inability to move out of its #3 position in LAX to Asia.

 

[does this plane go to paris]

If Delta was wooing Hollywood, was it in response when they oversold the flights from JFK to SLC during Sundance that made headlines?

 

[WorldTraveler]

I doubt it.

and I would challenge you to produce evidence those overbookings weren't IROP related.

 

[FrugalFlyerv2.0]

I doubt it.

and I would challenge you to produce evidence those overbookings weren't IROP related.

 
I'll give it a  quick shot during my lunchbreak, that this wasn't IROP related - due to weather.
 
I challenge you to come up with something similar to show that it may have been IROPs.
 
Here is the beautiful PR piece:    http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2015/01/22/delta_oversells_flight_to_sundance_here_s_what_to_do_if_an_airline_bumps.html
 
 
According to accuweather.com, there were 0 inches of precipitation in New York between Jan. 10-22 http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/new-york-ny/10007/january-weather/349727?monyr=1/1/2015&view=table
 
Likewise, it was 0 precipitation in ATL:  http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/atlanta-ga/30303/january-weather/348181?monyr=1/1/2015&view=table
 
DTW, on the other hand, did have 5 inches of snow in the previous 48 days:  http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/detroit-mi/48226/january-weather/348755?monyr=1/1/2015&view=table

 

[WorldTraveler]

DL has one of the lowest rates of involuntary oversales in the US airline industry and is below average even for voluntary overbooking.

I don't have access to the data to know why the flights were oversold and neither do you.... but to try to connect what happened on flights from JFK to SLC to what happened on LAX to AUS flights is more than a stretch - or an attempt to deny that DL is making a mark in the LAX to Texas market.

BTW, flights from ATL to AUS are also operating with multiple 757s so it isn't just a LAX thing. and today, IIRC, one of the 3 LAX =AUS flights is operating with a 319.

 

[FrugalFlyerv2.0]

and I would challenge you to produce evidence those overbookings weren't IROP related.

 

 
I'll give it a  quick shot during my lunchbreak, that this wasn't IROP related - due to weather.
 
I challenge you to come up with something similar to show that it may have been IROPs.
 
Here is the beautiful PR piece:    http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2015/01/22/delta_oversells_flight_to_sundance_here_s_what_to_do_if_an_airline_bumps.html
 
 
According to accuweather.com, there were 0 inches of precipitation in New York between Jan. 10-22 http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/new-york-ny/10007/january-weather/349727?monyr=1/1/2015&view=table
 
Likewise, it was 0 precipitation in ATL:  http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/atlanta-ga/30303/january-weather/348181?monyr=1/1/2015&view=table
 
DTW, on the other hand, did have 5 inches of snow in the previous 48 days:  http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/detroit-mi/48226/january-weather/348755?monyr=1/1/2015&view=table

 
Oh, and just so I don't forget, no precip at SLC either:  http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/salt-lake-city-ut/84111/january-weather/331216?monyr=1/1/2015&view=table
 

DL has one of the lowest rates of involuntary oversales in the US airline industry and is below average even for voluntary overbooking.

I don't have access to the data to know why the flights were oversold and neither do you....

 
Oh, now that's interesting. 
First, you make a challenge, and then when you're likely to be proven to be incorrect you back away, deflect, spin.
 
Good one!

 

[WorldTraveler]

you do realize that IROPS aren't just weather related, don't you?

I have deflected nothing...as is typical you came to the argument with a little bit of information, were convinced you had the answer, but don't.

Neither do I but I can tell you that overselling a flight to that degree is not in keeping with DL's overall overbooking rates which are available from the DOT.

 

[FrugalFlyerv2.0]

you do realize that IROPS aren't just weather related, don't you?
 

Yes, I do.
That's why I did the quick search over my lunchbreak to rule out a weather related IROP.
Now given that you can't back up your claim that the oversell was due to IROP, you indeed have resorted to deflecting and spinning.  But that is not unusual, as you have shown on numerous occasions to lie/ fabricate statements you cannot prove.

 

[WorldTraveler]

no, I said I don't know the facts. All of them.

You don't either. you just jumped to a conclusion.

but help us understand how an oversale on a JFK-SLC flight has ANY bearing on DL's performance on LAX-AUS, a route where DL is using mainline aircraft.

what IS the connection other than that you want to throw dirt on something that isn't even close to related.

do you think you could find an example that had some semblance of LAX or AUS in it - we'll even give you Texas of California... both are pretty big states... but honestly, JFK to SLC?