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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/delta-buy-20-embraer-e190s-031706698.html?.tsrc=applewf
Probably from Air Canada, the 190s that is.
Delta To Buy 40 739ER And 20 E190
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yes, these are AC's 190s. DL acquired L1011-500s from AC as well.
Boeing plays the middle man for DL's used aircraft transactions and gets a cut with some additional 737-900ERs.
Boeing plays the middle man for DL's used aircraft transactions and gets a cut with some additional 737-900ERs.
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Greatest A/C swindle....ooops I mean deal EVER pulled off, was by the US airline pres/chairman/ceo, The GODFATHER (uncle) Bobby CRANDALL, when he played boeing against Airbus, and walked away with a shiit load of RENTED A300's, plus a super sweet deal from boeing on the 767's !!
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maybe it was but that the 300s are now all gone and the 767s are on their way out the door with the cabins significantly below par compared to AA's other fleets and other carrier 767s.
Meanwhile, DL still has about 80 767s still flying and all have brand new/current generation interiors and amenities as good as any US airline has on a 12 hour airplane.
specific to this deal, it is noteworthy that DL and UA are developing pretty similar fleets and both are interested in a 100 seat mainline aircraft with DL having 90 717s in service or on the way and another 20 Ejets soon to join - undoubtedly to be joined by an order for new aircraft from Embraer - unless DL starts scouring the globe for E190/95s
Meanwhile, DL still has about 80 767s still flying and all have brand new/current generation interiors and amenities as good as any US airline has on a 12 hour airplane.
specific to this deal, it is noteworthy that DL and UA are developing pretty similar fleets and both are interested in a 100 seat mainline aircraft with DL having 90 717s in service or on the way and another 20 Ejets soon to join - undoubtedly to be joined by an order for new aircraft from Embraer - unless DL starts scouring the globe for E190/95s
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speaking of which, what is AA's plan for a mainline flown 100 seater given that AA has a larger regional carrier fleet and more of them on 50 seaters than either DL or UA?
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and they still have the largest fleet of small RJs as well as overall RJs and their cancellation rate for their regional operations is above DL and UA"s average.
AA is heavily exposed to the pilot shortage and cannot sustain the number of hubs it has.
DL and UA have recognized it and DL has moved and is moving the most aggressively to bring flying back to mainline where they know they can staff it regardless of the pilot shortage.
It isn't a surprise that the E90 is common with the E70/75 and DL holds theleases on a number of the DCI Ejets.
DL could bring that flying back in house very easily if it needs to but will still have the smallest regional carrier operation among the big 3 regardless of what happens with 70/76 seat flying
AA is heavily exposed to the pilot shortage and cannot sustain the number of hubs it has.
DL and UA have recognized it and DL has moved and is moving the most aggressively to bring flying back to mainline where they know they can staff it regardless of the pilot shortage.
It isn't a surprise that the E90 is common with the E70/75 and DL holds theleases on a number of the DCI Ejets.
DL could bring that flying back in house very easily if it needs to but will still have the smallest regional carrier operation among the big 3 regardless of what happens with 70/76 seat flying
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Dude you are nothing but a liar.
DL has more total RJs than the New AA and I have already proven that fact per each carriers 10k.
AA has 343 RJs, while DL has whopping 446 RJs.
AA has no issue with pilot shortage, another lie your making up, care to back up with facts?
And while your at it, how about proving NK changes its schedule every two weeks?
How about proving your claim that the DL/VS JV is more profitable than any other JV in Airline History?
DL has more total RJs than the New AA and I have already proven that fact per each carriers 10k.
AA has 343 RJs, while DL has whopping 446 RJs.
AA has no issue with pilot shortage, another lie your making up, care to back up with facts?
And while your at it, how about proving NK changes its schedule every two weeks?
How about proving your claim that the DL/VS JV is more profitable than any other JV in Airline History?
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as usual you are absolutely wrong.
AA's own 10K shows that new AA has 302 wholly owned regional aircraft (not just RJs), 98 on order, and 265 under contract with regional carriers as of Dec 31, 2014. (page 54 and 55 of AAL's 2014 annual report on SEC form 10K)
that number is far higher than the 499 total what DL has in service as of Dec 2014 and which is being reduced. The new contract establishes a limit of 425, the lowest level of RJs that DL has had in years.
The entire issue has an issue with pilot shortages and it will get worse.
Envoy has the highest rate of cancellations among regional carriers.
the data is all there for anyone who actually wants to look instead of defend the indefensible.
AA's own 10K shows that new AA has 302 wholly owned regional aircraft (not just RJs), 98 on order, and 265 under contract with regional carriers as of Dec 31, 2014. (page 54 and 55 of AAL's 2014 annual report on SEC form 10K)
that number is far higher than the 499 total what DL has in service as of Dec 2014 and which is being reduced. The new contract establishes a limit of 425, the lowest level of RJs that DL has had in years.
The entire issue has an issue with pilot shortages and it will get worse.
Envoy has the highest rate of cancellations among regional carriers.
the data is all there for anyone who actually wants to look instead of defend the indefensible.
At the time of the merger, according to US Airways, US had 278 Express aircraft, including the Dash8s plus the assorted RJs:700UW said:
https://shopping.usairways.com/en-US/Resources/_downloads/aboutus/pressroom/factsheets/express.pdf
Add the 250+ RJs that AA brought to the table (owned, leased, and contracted), and it's clear that the largest regional fleet belongs to AA. AA has more than 500 regional planes.
A big challenge for AA will be what to do about the Dash8s and 50-seaters, and AA has far more 50-seaters than Delta still has (it has retired many of them).
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thank you, FWAAA.
let's see if 700 will admit it now that you have validated exactly what I said.
And a big part of the reason why AA has so many RJs is because it has so many hubs many of which duplicate the same geographic regions.
and the link shows that CLT is the largest regional carrier operation on the US system and if you look at schedule data has a higher percentage of regional carrier to mainline seats
let's see if 700 will admit it now that you have validated exactly what I said.
And a big part of the reason why AA has so many RJs is because it has so many hubs many of which duplicate the same geographic regions.
and the link shows that CLT is the largest regional carrier operation on the US system and if you look at schedule data has a higher percentage of regional carrier to mainline seats
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Why should I admit anything?
I will just act like you and ignore it.
Answer what I have asked over and over and then I will.
Lets see NK's schedule with facts.
DL/VS JV most profitable JV in history.
And all the questions poised to you about DL in the other thread.
And yes the information I had was old.
I will just act like you and ignore it.
Answer what I have asked over and over and then I will.
Lets see NK's schedule with facts.
DL/VS JV most profitable JV in history.
And all the questions poised to you about DL in the other thread.
And yes the information I had was old.
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NK's schedule is available in dozens of place including their own website.
You can't find a single day that they operate the same schedule.
the rest of your questions are nothing but distractions from admitting that the IAM has done more to destroy airline worker pay and advancement except for any other union except for perhaps the TWU - and the two of them run pretty neck in neck.
You can't find a single day that they operate the same schedule.
the rest of your questions are nothing but distractions from admitting that the IAM has done more to destroy airline worker pay and advancement except for any other union except for perhaps the TWU - and the two of them run pretty neck in neck.
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Still you havent proved a statement you made.
Come on just admit your a liar, already.
Where is the proof about NK?
Where is the proof about DL/VS JV?
Its not a distraction.
How many planes does DL mainline have?
How many cities does DL fly too?
How many of those cities are staffed exclusively by DL Mainline employees on the ramp?
How many cities did DL ramp bring to the merger and now many did NW bring?
Come on just admit your a liar, already.
Where is the proof about NK?
Where is the proof about DL/VS JV?
Its not a distraction.
How many planes does DL mainline have?
How many cities does DL fly too?
How many of those cities are staffed exclusively by DL Mainline employees on the ramp?
How many cities did DL ramp bring to the merger and now many did NW bring?
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