Can U Afford To Operate Like This?

[planejane]

Airbus N103 had a broken seat on a 10 day MEL. After 10 days with no part to repair U filed to extend the MEL time with the FAA. After the extension ran out and still no parts to repair, Are you sitting down? U maint ferried (no revenue pax) A/C from lga to clt to repair one seat row. I would like to know the cost of crew time, jet fuel and lost revenue.

Is anyone in U's management held accountable? Maybe these airlines investing in U will demand U stop running its operation like a non profit organization.

 

[MrAeroMan]

Sounds like standard operations to me. It's down right frightening to see stuff like this and the decisions that are coming out of CCY. It's obvious someone up top has uttered, "Let them eat cake."

 

[insp89]

Airbus N103 had a broken seat on a 10 day MEL. After 10 days with no part to repair U filed to extend the MEL time with the FAA. After the extension ran out and still no parts to repair, Are you sitting down? U maint ferried (no revenue pax) A/C from lga to clt to repair one seat row. I would like to know the cost of crew time, jet fuel and lost revenue.

Is anyone in U's management held accountable? Maybe these airlines investing in U will demand U stop running its operation like a non profit organization.

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Sounds like the FAA is giving U a little "wake-up" call..MAINTAIN YOUR AIRPLANES.

[Even though the inhouse seat shop is shut down]..

 

[local 12 proud]

so is it any wonder with these kind of buisness decisions why they continue to come back for more concessions? They have no clue how to operate much less turn a profit, and the USAIR labor groups just keep on giving, and giving, and giving. WHAT A JOKE THIS INDUSTRY HAS BECOME!

 

[aafsc]

Amazing, they could have just flew a revenue flight from LGA to CLT and blocked off that one row.

 

[luvn737s]

Nah, once the MEL runs out (without extension) the whole airplane becomes a ferry-permit-only pumpkin. They could have shipped a new row of seats up though for probably alot less money. Seats are pretty common though, they couldn't buy a part from Northwest or United?

 

[planejane]

Amazing, they could have just flew a revenue flight from LGA to CLT and blocked off that one row.

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It had been flying for 10 days + the extension the FAA granted with the seat blocked off. After the MEL time limit - the a/c cannot fly revenue - PERIOD until the MEL is repaired. Guess U didn't need it's seat shop after all. Heard that's not the only part problem U is having. Why are there no parts for repair after all your contract give backs?

 

[insp89]

It had been flying for 10 days + the extension the FAA granted with the seat blocked off.  After the MEL time limit - the a/c cannot fly revenue - PERIOD until the MEL is repaired.  Guess U didn't need it's seat shop after all.    Heard that's not the only part problem U is having.  Why are there no parts for repair after all your contract give backs?

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This is a good example what happens to an airline that files for bankrupcy, and not only do they shaft their employees, they shaft their business partners [ vendors ] .. Now these vendors are demanding CASH up front for their parts and services.

And on top of that, The company has shut down the in-house Slide shop, Battery Shop, Coffeemaker Shop, Wheel and Brake Shop... and probably others that I can't remember now..

I don't know where U is getting these Components, But I'm sure they are paying TOP $$$......

 

[Fatherknowsbest]

Ebay!

 

[757fixer]

Ebay!

[post="260728"][/post]​

Nah,even Ebay requires that you have credit.

 

[justaumechanic]

This is a good example what happens to an airline that files for bankrupcy, and not only do they shaft their employees, they shaft their business partners [ vendors ] .. Now these vendors are demanding CASH up front for their parts and services.

And on top of that, The company has shut down the in-house Slide shop, Battery Shop, Coffeemaker Shop, Wheel and Brake Shop... and probably others that I can't remember now..

I don't know where U is getting these Components, But I'm sure they are paying TOP $$$......

[post="260718"][/post]​

They farmed it all out.. Every single thing.. There are no shops.. None.. Zero.. They have a small sheetmetal, composite, machine shop.. Thats it.. And all of that is under Base Maintenance.. The rest are gone.. Off to the lowest bidder..

Keep in mind they are in CH 11.. Do you blame the "Business Partners" for wanting cash up front.. I don't blame them one damn bit.. This place wants to bone anyone it can with the exception of its management staff.. They get raises based on how many people they bone a month.

Sending an aircraft from LGA to CLT for a seat replacement is plain stupid.. Simple as that.. How many times a day did 103 pass thru PIT, PHL or CLT? For tha matter LGA? Having a seat in position to clear the MEL at the end of 10 days!! Hell it would have been cheaper to pay a stock clerk overtime to drive the seat from CLT to LGA.. Cheaper..

CCY and Presto in PIT have no clue.. They are lost.. Panic.. All they know how to do it panic and yell.. No idea how to run an airline.. The are fools..

 

[WestCoastGuy]

Seems like more and more planes are coming in with broken seats in first and coach! We get airbus in almost daily with seat problems. Bumping psgrs out of first into oversold coach is no fun! Just give em an apology and address to contact Debrah Thompson.

 

[E-TRONS]

I see nothing has changed for the better. Instead, the bumbling idiots continue to wait for the dividends of outsourcing the key elements that prevented this sort of thing from happening in the past. I hate to break it to CCY but you ARE getting exactly what you bargained for.

In case nobody has heard of this little factoid...... <_< Read on!!!

The CLT Battery Shop (now outsourced) was staffed by two fine individuals who would routinely service an aircraft battery for around $100. each. They also ensured serviceable units remained in stock.

Enter the idiots: The battery shop has been shut down and now the batteries are shipped to who know's what vendor for the same services. The only difference now is that UAIR pays $250. For EACH BATTERY SHIPPING ALONE !!!!! And to top it all off.....There is a shortage of batteries in stock :huh: !!!!

Good gosh, Think of all the money they saved by getting those two mechanics out of a productive shop!!!! Somebody needs to be stood in front of a firing squad :angry: !!!!

This is but one of many fine examples of the ineptitude running rampant in the executive ranks. I'm certain INSP 89 or High Iron could elaborate on related random acts of stupidity in the CLT-Base Maint Penitentiary.

I don't even work there anymore and it STILL pisses me off :angry: !!!! This philosophy of outsource now - calculate savings later has gone on unchecked and it will only get worse until they have to start parking airplanes due to maintenance!!!!! Not like you ever saw that before (Crossroads) <_< :down: !!!!

Face it HAWK.............Management SUCKS BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Boeing4me]

Just curious - does the cost of $100 per battery include the salary of the individuals who worked in the battery shop? In order to make a fair comparison with the ousourced cost of $250 per battery you need to include all of the costs (including salary and benefits) into the cost per battery when the services where insourced.

Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to dispute your point - just make it a fair comparison of costs.

 

[repeet]

The $100 cost as presented to us, as employees, was represented to be the companies cost of our labor, including benefits and goverment required costs.

The Charlotte Battery Shop had at least 10 test stations. The two man crew would load them up and preform deep cycle tests. If they passed, they were returned to service. If they failed, they were troubleshot, repaired and retested.

The number of batteries turned out over a year divided by the cost of the employees and parts, was represented to be the companies cost.

US Airways new battery vendor told the company up front that they only had three test stations, and couldn't handle the required load. The company has been trying to find other vendors. When I left two weeks ago, they company was short eighty batteries from their ideal allocation.