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[MiAAmi]

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On 4/30/2003 10:39:56 PM TWAnr wrote:

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On 4/30/2003 458 PM MiAAmi wrote:

Can it be true!!! Sherry Cooper on her way out.  Ding Dong the witch is gone.  Now I guess there is some good news after all.

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Hold your celebration.  Check the APFA constitution and by laws.  Just as a furloughed flight attendant can hold a union office, furloughed flight attendants can vote in union elections.  1,000 nAAtive will have a hard time outvoting 3,000 plus red haired step children.

Sorry to rain on your parade.

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Remember not all the 3000 are dues paying members. I would guess that it won''t be too difficult to un-seat her. Her days as Chair of STL are numbered.

 

[b727fa]

Hey MiAAmi!

>>Its not like anyone wants to be forced to a new base.
Maggie ____ (I won''t sully her name here more than she has...she knows who she is) in ORD is sure ready to go!

>>What makes you think that they will have to learn new commands and such. It should be just new equipment locations all the AA policies should be the same. We already fly 757''s and MD-80''s.

Duh! Both AMR and LLC are under different certificates. They still have seperate AER/EPT...(no, nAAtive Capt. that''s not the same as an EPT Test...that would be pilot error.) Whereas the training for recurrent is different, so is the equipment, commands and manual. *You really don''t know this, do you?* That''s so sad. Incidently, the AA policies are NOT the same! If it were that easy then all the STL/LLC folks could have x-fered LONG ago. What''s the point of the *SLT* base? TRANSITION BASE! So if you "already fly 757''s and MD-80''s" then you should be able to fly on LLC metal and vice versa? In that case, turn in your wings baby, I''m comin'' over...I''ve got more seniority in my boxer shorts!

 

[flydcoop]

BTW TWAnr,

MIA hub is the true redheaded stepchild of AA! Ask anyone at DFW what they think of MIA

Once you understand that this hub runs like the city of Miami (chaos is the norm), everything else falls into place!

take care ALL, UPDATE YOUR MANUALS...FAA out and about,

Coop

 

[flydcoop]

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On 4/30/2003 11:51:58 PM b727fa wrote:

Only if you plan to fly in STL in the next 60 days!

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Umm, I don''t because I don''t believe there is anyway I will avoid being furloughed in this next round.

I think it will be 1-3 years before I get recalled.

I meant no animosity in my post and I sincerely hope you did not interpret it that way.

I guess I was hoping that the TWAer''s 9 lives/survivor past would lead to some inspiring posts on this BB.

Maybe your hatred of the so-called nAAtives is really that strong. I have no hatred for TWA.

Coop

 

[b727fa]

>>He was super-cool and I hope I have the privilege of flying with him one day.

Only if you plan to fly in STL in the next 60 days!

 

[atabuy]

F/A TWAA,
IMO the TWA folks have had an extended life for a few more years when AA bought them.
I know seniority is always an issue, since we live and die by it.
There was no way Ual wanted U employees intergrated into their seniority system either.
TWA was bought, not merged, and therefore there never should be a meshing of seniority.
If you had started at AA you would feel the same way.
A few years back TWA was about to be closed down, and they never would have survived 911.
IMO, the twa employees should be happy with the extended time they had to work.

Things are hard right now and hopefully everyone will be back to work in a few years.

Maybe if you look at this a little differently, you might feel better about the employees who really have the right to bump TWA people out.
I am sure you would not feel bad if you bumped a junior employee out of their job.

 

[MiAAmi]

The Dead Horse is back! I kind of thought its ugly head would rise somewhere along this thread. Seniority is where we need to agree to disagree. As far as the cross training on TWA equipment goes, I may be nieve but I really doubt that management would announce something that they have worked out with the FAA if they really haven''t done so.

And b727fa,

"Duh! Both AMR and LLC are under different certificates. They still have seperate AER/EPT...(no, nAAtive Capt. that''s not the same as an EPT Test...that would be pilot error.) Whereas the training for recurrent is different, so is the equipment, commands and manual. *You really don''t know this, do you?* That''s so sad. Incidently, the AA policies are NOT the same! If it were that easy then all the STL/LLC folks could have x-fered LONG ago. What''s the point of the *SLT* base? TRANSITION BASE! So if you "already fly 757''s and MD-80''s" then you should be able to fly on LLC metal and vice versa? In that case, turn in your wings baby, I''m comin'' over...I''ve got more seniority in my boxer shorts!"

I think if everyone working the a/c is AA qualified the differences training is alot shorter since they have already completed all the procedure and policy training. I really doubt that AA would announce that they have approval from the FAA to do the training if they don''t. But seeing that all your seniority is in your boxer shorts you may know more than all of us.

 

[MiAAmi]

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On 4/30/2003 1149 PM flydcoop wrote:

BTW TWAnr,

MIA hub is the true redheaded stepchild of AA! Ask anyone at DFW what they think of MIA

Once you understand that this hub runs like the city of Miami (chaos is the norm), everything else falls into place!

take care ALL, UPDATE YOUR MANUALS...FAA out and about,

Coop

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If you wonder why people have a dis-trust of the TWA posters on the board, all you have to do is look at posts like this one. Trouble makers! Trying to stir the pot. If the above post is not the most childish post I have read yet (besides my own) I'll be damned.

 

[TWAnr]

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On 4/30/2003 11:30:44 PM MiAAmi wrote:

Remember not all the 3000 are dues paying members. I would guess that it won''t be too difficult to un-seat her. Her days as Chair of STL are numbered.

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Well over 2,000 STL based flight attendants voted in the concessionary agreement ratification vote. There are, and will be, enough TWAers, who are APFA members in good standing to keep Sherry in office, at least until the five years recall rights expire.

Check your facts before you post.

 

[MiAAmi]

How many people do you think will stay dues current if they are furloughed?

 

[TWAnr]

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On 5/1/2003 10:34:21 AM MiAAmi wrote:

How many people do you think will stay dues current if they are furloughed?

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Furloughed flight attendants are not required to pay union dues; yet, they remain members in good standing and are eligible to vote.

Check the APFA constitution and by laws before you post again.

 

[MiAAmi]

Your right coop! I guees I''ve been on the defensive lately.
thanks for clearing that up.

 

[MiAAmi]

TWAnr,

I''m sorry. I have to give you credit, for someone who is not even a flight attendant or a member of our union you certainly are full of info. I admit I am not as well versed in our union rules as I should be. If my posts are offensive to you I apologize. Regarding Sherry Cooper, she has been a thorn in our side since day one. There is no love loss between most AA''ers and Ms Cooper. You can bet that every effort will be made to remove her from her seat. I for one fully support any of these efforts. This statement is not to be confused with whats happening to our co-workers at STL. I hate whats happening to my co-workers and hope that things turn around quickly for the company and we can begin recalling sooner than later. I know your spouce will be among the furloughed and I wish you and your family the best.

 

[flydcoop]

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On 5/1/2003 932 AM MiAAmi wrote:

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On 4/30/2003 1149 PM flydcoop wrote:

BTW TWAnr,

MIA hub is the true redheaded stepchild of AA! Ask anyone at DFW what they think of MIA

Once you understand that this hub runs like the city of Miami (chaos is the norm), everything else falls into place!

take care ALL, UPDATE YOUR MANUALS...FAA out and about,

Coop

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If you wonder why people have a dis-trust of the TWA posters on the board, all you have to do is look at posts like this one. Trouble makers! Trying to stir the pot. If the above post is not the most childish post I have read yet (besides my own) I'll be damned.


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MiAAmi,

I think you may have misinterpreted my post...it was meant to be tongue-in-cheek, not stir the pot.

I've worked at MIA for 5 of the past 6 years. This is my home.

Coop

 

[b727fa]

>>Only if you''re plan to fly in STL in the next 60 days!

>>I meant no animosity in my post and I sincerely hope you did not interpret it that way.

Hi Coop,

Thanks for the note. My comment was more tongue-in-cheek as well. Sometimes this darn method of communication doesn''t convey true intentions.

Regards,